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Handnr: 21838
Submitted by : mad1337nes

PokerStars Game #4570480325: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/04/09 - 08:53:10 (ET)
Table 'Freda' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: chrisT18 ($16.95 in chips)
Seat 2: TEXRNDER ($10.40 in chips)
Seat 3: chappy 22 ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 4: bagqueen ($13.45 in chips)
Seat 5: chrisleto ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 6: yex17 ($6.70 in chips)
chrisleto: posts small blind $0.05
yex17: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards
Dealt to chrisT18 TdJd
bagqueen said, "it beat you"
chrisT18: calls $0.10
TEXRNDER: folds
chappy 22: folds
bagqueen: folds
chrisleto: raises $0.30 to $0.40
yex17: folds
chrisT18 said, "im sure u dont know anything about odds"
chrisT18 said, "so ill save myself the typeing"
chrisT18: calls $0.30

Flop (Pot : $0.9)

   AcKd5h
chrisleto: bets $0.50
chrisT18: calls $0.50

Turn (Pot : $1.9)

   AcKd5h5d
chrisleto: bets $1
chrisT18: calls $1

River (Pot : $3.9)

   AcKd5h5d3d
bagqueen said, "i'm sure i dont"
chrisleto: bets $1
chrisT18: raises $3 to $4
chrisleto: calls $3

Showdown
chrisT18: shows TdJd (a flush, King high)
chrisleto: shows QdAd (a flush, Ace high)
chrisleto collected $11.35 from pot

Summary
Total pot $11.90 | Rake $0.55
Board  AcKd5h5d3d
Seat 1: chrisT18 showed TdJd and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 2: TEXRNDER folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: chappy 22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bagqueen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chrisleto (small blind) showed QdAd and won ($11.35) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: yex17 (big blind) folded before Flop

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nomanirvana   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:07. Posts 2523

You obviously dont know anything about odds either chasing a runner runner 2nd best flush.

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mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:07. Posts 2414

tried to get fancy to stack.

didnt expect that.

<3 the 5's for saveing me


mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:09. Posts 2414

I play nl10 by choice, you play because ur a donk.

come back when you understand what I did

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 07:13

mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:13. Posts 2414

oh, and its 3rd best, donk


nomanirvana   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:19. Posts 2523

I play nl50 but I just cashed out therefore I must start over please spare me the nonsense. Its an even stupider call on the turn with the 5's out there. You had the gutshot possibility which helps but that really only makes you 25% to improve on the river and you dont have 100% guaranteed implied odds to stack. Pot odds on the turn were 1/3.

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 07:21

mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:23. Posts 2414

I put her on AK/AQ

and yes... I would get stack with either Q or if I had hit flush and she had AK


wernt you the one that called some big ass PF raise and then folded flop when u hit? and then posted it in hand discuss?? enough said


nomanirvana   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:26. Posts 2523

Your runner runner theory depends on her having the EXACT hand that you put her on and you were WRONG. Anyone paying attention to the hand watching you call down would know you are drawing and wouldnt pay you off anything when you hit. You'd get payed off by a full house.

And yes sometimes I make mistakes, no shit. I am saying you made a mistake here.

And if you put her on AQ then obviously you have to consider she can have AQ SUITED, right?

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 07:29

pooper-scooper   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:31. Posts 1127

poop smells bad

Good... Bad... Im the guy with the Gun. 

mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:32. Posts 2414

how was this a mistake??


its not a theory... either AQ or AK is paying if I hit something.

this is the only case (1/8) that backfires


nomanirvana   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:39. Posts 2523

AQ or AK is paying depending on the player, so I am saying its a mistake in the long run and especially at higher limits. AQ is paying but AQs is very likely too, a skilled player would hardly go past the flop with AQo in this pot. On the flop all you have is a gutshot which is trash odds, and then on the turn you have a 25% chance to hit a straight or flush on the river that can be beaten by alot of hands: AQd, AA, KK, A5. AKo is the only one out of 5 likely hands that pays you off and it would have to be a stupid player to pay you anything significant to justify calling runner runner w/out odds. Im just saying you are too likely to be drawing dead to chase runner runner shit for a stack-sized pot. A stacked-sized pot on this board is going to involve a full house.

Plus AK in the hands of a skilled player would give you even worse odds than this guy. The gutshot on the flop is nothing.

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 07:46

mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:48. Posts 2414

the only reason I played is because Ive played like 50k hands with the villan.... and i know they will be more then happy to pay with close to nothing (yes, my img is that bad)

oviously its an insta fold for most other situations... but this was a situational thing.

at nl25 im not even thinking about a play like this... but at nl10 it works


and as for the "not knowing odds" comment, the bitch commited 2/3's of her stack with k9 vs my kq and then rivers a 9.. and uses the "I won, didnt I?" comment


mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:52. Posts 2414

and its obv not a set/boat my mom can see that and she doesnt know what nlhe is.

this was the one in 8 combo's of AKs/AQs that bites back.

as you can see in HH, 3 orbits later I did the same thing, and stacked on a safe board.


Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 09 2006 07:57. Posts 10422

hahahahha

fiiiisshhhhh


Karma    Australia. Apr 09 2006 08:02. Posts 3538

I smell tacos.

fish mentality 

mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 08:04. Posts 2414

hey, when you keep getting sucked out by fishies when you're a 9:1 fav or turn..... just play like they do and get em back.


I play correctly and get BSed, I play like a donkey and im up like 8 buys in 2 hours


Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 09 2006 08:16. Posts 10422

variance

and you suck : )

where's muhweli and the mexican smily when you need him


mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 08:28. Posts 2414

its not varrience when it happens continuously for the past 50k hands


Karma    Australia. Apr 09 2006 08:42. Posts 3538

Yeah it's "you suck".

fish mentality 

 

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