PokerStars Game #10894395402: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/07/11 - 23:49:25 (ET)
Table 'Palach' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: AZAZELLO_XXX ($341.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Yugless ($398 in chips)
Seat 4: Peryan_24 ($116.60 in chips)
Seat 5: BNCasey3 ($115 in chips)
Seat 6: russ0618 ($472.20 in chips)
Seat 7: aragon ($423 in chips)
Seat 8: Punty ($404 in chips)
Seat 9: uconnsports1 ($688.65 in chips)
russ0618: posts small blind $2
aragon: posts big blind $4
Holecards
Dealt to Yugless 
Punty: folds
uconnsports1: calls $4
AZAZELLO_XXX: folds
Yugless : raises $16 to $20
Peryan_24: folds
BNCasey3: folds
russ0618: calls $18
aragon: calls $16
uconnsports1: calls $16
Flop (Pot : $80.00)
russ0618: checks
aragon: checks
uconnsports1: checks
Yugless is disconnected
Yugless is connected
Yugless : bets $50
russ0618: calls $50
aragon: folds
uconnsports1: folds
Turn (Pot : $180.00)
russ0618: checks
Yugless : checks
River (Pot : $180.00)
russ0618: checks
Yugless : bets $120
AZAZELLO_XXX leaves the table
fumbo420 joins the table at seat #1
bluexcr leaves the table
russ0618: raises $230 to $350
bickernuts joins the table at seat #3
Yugless : folds
russ0618 collected $417 from pot
Summary
Total pot $420 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: AZAZELLO_XXX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Yugless folded on the River
Seat 4: Peryan_24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BNCasey3 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: russ0618 (small blind) collected ($417)
Seat 7: aragon (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Punty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: uconnsports1 folded on the Flop
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Yugless  United States. Jul 11 2007 21:56. Posts 7174 | | |
this player is loose, somewhat aggressive, overall pretty bad. ez fold? |
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Moloch United States. Jul 11 2007 21:59. Posts 6144 | | |
definitely, but i'd much rather bet turn check river than check turn bet river |
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no point in ck raise river unless he thinks ur just stabbin after ur turn ck... |
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Svenman87 United States. Jul 11 2007 22:00. Posts 4636 | | |
I just got 2 newb questions. ^_^
Why check behind here on the turn?
Wouldn't you pop a bet on the river here with most marginal hands?
I don't disagree that you are beat here a lot. but I think you're also being pushed by a bunch of weaker hands. |
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Balzamon Sweden. Jul 11 2007 22:03. Posts 2868 | | | |
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Yugless United States. Jul 11 2007 22:04. Posts 7174 | | |
i checked behind
1. keep the pot small if hes slowplaying something
2. induce a bet or call on the river from a weaker hand
not standard, just a little different play |
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Moloch United States. Jul 11 2007 22:07. Posts 6144 | | |
thing is if he's slowplaying something, you're going to pay him off almost always on the river by either betting anyway once he checks to you and folding to a c/r (or possibly paying off on an innocuous river) or he'll lead the river and you'll call like 90% of rivers anyway. however if you bet thet urn and he has a set he's pretty much always c/ring you there and you can let the hand go, and you get paid off by 9T/89/J9/79/JJ and all the other hands you're ahead of for at least that bet, and if river is harmless you can get one last street of value. i think betting the turn >>>> checking |
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Yugless United States. Jul 11 2007 22:12. Posts 7174 | | |
well bet/folding the turn is the same as checking the turn and calling the river, but i get a showdown if i check the turn so i cant be bluffed(unless he check raise bluffs but thats unlikely)
anyway, not standard just a different look |
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Moloch United States. Jul 11 2007 22:16. Posts 6144 | | |
no it's not the same because you're giving free cards to draws that will not call a river bet unless they improve, giving Tx a free card to make 2pr, you say you "get a showdown" but going to showdown doesn't mean that you succeeded in the hand or something. goal isn't to show down your hand nor to not get bluffed, goal is to win as much money as possible, i.e. maximize EV. turn check is inferior no matter which way you look at it, unless villian is a loose cannon and will c/r the turn with a huge range that includes lots of hands that you have beat |
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