THEY FUCKING SUX SO MUCH AND STILL OVER HIT ME -_-;;;;;;;

you are not going to get called by worse than the nut flush on your raise on the turn.. I flat the turn raise and call the river bet.

Lol what?

Any flush calls, probably a million other hands as well unless NL100 is somehow a million times tighter than NL50.

Another great advice from our pro.

fuyck you all you guys are all fucking horrible idiot. Raising with out the nutflush on the turn is FUCKING spew and retarded. Fucking retards

yea 25NL and 50NL players. nice advice go stab your self in the eye plz

On July 16 2007 03:54 wobbly_au wrote: fuyck you all you guys are all fucking horrible idiot. Raising with out the nutflush on the turn is FUCKING spew and retarded. Fucking retards

You sir, are a moron

On July 16 2007 03:56 SakiSaki wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2007 03:54 wobbly_au wrote: fuyck you all you guys are all fucking horrible idiot. Raising with out the nutflush on the turn is FUCKING spew and retarded. Fucking retards You sir, are a moron

fuck u too

On July 16 2007 03:59 wobbly_au wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2007 03:56 SakiSaki wrote:   On July 16 2007 03:54 wobbly_au wrote: fuyck you all you guys are all fucking horrible idiot. Raising with out the nutflush on the turn is FUCKING spew and retarded. Fucking retards You sir, are a moron fuck u too

You should probably stop giving horrible advice and start taking advice from people who are way way better than you, else you will have a hard time succeding in poker.

omg wobbly u suck

wobbly stfu you are such a fish, and you give bad advices in multy topics

ok i suck im worst player alive. just lke ban me from posting anywhere then. Just let me upload some hands which i can link.
this shit just tilts me too much and will just affect my poker.
honestly i was just tyring ot be nice and help out, but every post i make i get stabbed. like what ever

You should try and actually discuss poker. Try to explain your thoughtprocess, and why raising turn is horrible. Make up some ranges and show how bad our equity is or something. You cant just give your opinion, and then call everyone who disagrees a fucking retard. That works if you are Rekrul and has made millions from poker, It doesnt work when your a random low stakes grinder.

<3 sakisaki! BTW - there are TONS of hands that would raise the turn and call your shove that you beat. Other than the nut flush, a set could raise the turn, random 2pair could raise the turn, weirdly played AK, etc. You crush every hand except the A high flush.

On July 16 2007 04:12 SakiSaki wrote: You should try and actually discuss poker. Try to explain your thoughtprocess, and why raising turn is horrible. Make up some ranges and show how bad our equity is or something. You cant just give your opinion, and then call everyone who disagrees a fucking retard. That works if you are Rekrul and has made millions from poker, It doesnt work when your a random low stakes grinder.

you are not going to get called by worse than the nut flush on your raise on the turn.. I flat the turn raise and call the river bet.
that was my thoguht process.

If you raise all in you fold out like sets over pairs what ever. the only hand that calls is nut flush.
I do not call people morons, if you just read every post in this trhead you will see that i posted my reply in a short informative and consise manner. everyone else just hates me.

unless this guy is a monkey raising the turn isnt as profitable as calling.

just to put in my 2 cents, fuck u also.

On July 16 2007 03:31 wobbly_au wrote: im such a bitch and i dont know what im talking about.

lets hu for brs

i still love you wobbly

Anyways like i said, i was only trying to get help and like there is no point in my posting here anymore. If i am not liked on LP i dont deserve to be here. And obviously i am not good enough to give my point of view without being called a moron. So i ask a admin to just take my posting rights away because if not i will keep on posting due to my nature of wanting to help.

But please let me be able to post hands on the box on the right.

On July 16 2007 04:15 PoorUser wrote: i still love you wobbly

did he pay you with his mad dough to say that?

On July 16 2007 04:15 PoorUser wrote: i still love you wobbly

you are lieing.. no one loves me here.
I am just lucky fish and have no idea what im tlaking about..
seriously raising turn is good listen to sakisaki, he is high stakes.
im fucking retarded just like ban me already. life tilt honestly

On July 16 2007 04:17 Rush wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2007 04:15 PoorUser wrote: i still love you wobbly did he pay you with his mad dough to say that?

fuck you rush i hate you so much u fucking piece of shit.

On July 16 2007 04:17 wobbly_au wrote: But please let me be able to post hands on the box on the right.

hell ya

and make an alarm that minimizes to ur toolbar every time you post so i can prepare myself

who are you

random fish grinder on the low stakes that got lucky and now on the slightly higher stakes nice to meet you

Wobbly is kinda emo lol

Always whining when someone disagrees with him. Pick up a butcher knife already and slit'em.

I think you seriously give 05/1 players way to much nitty credit. First of all, we have the second nuts and nobody folds a lower flush here. We had the initiative preflop and he called in the bigblind. That gives a range of 5s3s, 5s7s, 7s8s, 7s9s, 8s9s, ,9sJs, As2s, As3s As5s, As7s, As8s, As9s, AsJs

Thats 6 flushes we beat and 7 flushes that beat us. Add to that the fact that villian can have alot of more or less random hands that he might or might not call with on the turn, Including sets As+pair, AsAx, Kx9x etc makes this a pretty trivial raise.



We have the second nuts sir.

On July 16 2007 04:28 SakiSaki wrote: I think you seriously give 05/1 players way to much nitty credit. First of all, we have the second nuts and nobody folds a lower flush here. We had the initiative preflop and he called in the bigblind. That gives a range of 5s3s, 5s7s, 7s8s, 7s9s, 8s9s, ,9sJs, Qs9s, QsJs, As2s, As3s As5s, As7s, As8s, As9s, AsJs Thats 8 flushes we beat and 7 flushes that beat us. Add to that the fact that villian can have alot of more or less random hands that he might or might not call with on the turn, Including sets As+pair, AsAx, Kx9x etc makes this a pretty trivial raise. We have the second nuts sir.

i think saying that no body folds a lower flush here is wrong.

If we have second nuts why cant we call here and just get it in on the river? Ofcourse sometimes the river brings spade and lower flushes get scared but thats the same case here. People do fold lower flushes, I actually think you (SakiSaki) are not giving 100NL players enuf nitty credit. Perhaps you have been ballering highstakes too long?

hahaha r u fucking kidding me?
this guy called /w A5s oop and you think that he could laydown lower flush?

i can put him on like milion flushes, 66,99,AsK.

All_in_Virus raised - $25.00
The72o raised - $79.00

Yes.. that WILL fold out ALOT of smaller flushes in My opinion.
And no i am not fucking kidding you. I am dead serious.

On July 16 2007 04:40 The72o wrote: this guy called /w A5s oop and you think that he could laydown lower flush?

Our Australian friend thinks he is a nit. Well, OK then .

Because half the deck hurt out hand. Any spade kills action from lower flushes and gives AsXx the nuts. If the board pairs we hate our hand and wont get value/might be beat. If the river bricks we dont get value from AsXx that might make a crying call on the turn.

And if ppl regularily fold flushes here then they are so weak/nitty and easily exploitable that you can make tons and tons of money of them just bringing the heat in spots like these. You really need to consider what he is putting us on. We raised preflop so whats going through the fishes head is probably hands like AsKx, AsAx, KK, KQ etc. I can asure you, most nl100 player with a low flush in this spot is thinking the same thing "how do I get all the money in the middle the fastest way possible?"

On July 16 2007 04:46 SakiSaki wrote: Because half the deck hurt out hand. Any spade kills action from lower flushes and gives AsXx the nuts. If the board pairs we hate our hand and wont get value/might be beat. If the river bricks we dont get value from AsXx that might make a crying call on the turn. And if ppl regularily fold flushes here then they are so weak/nitty and easily exploitable that you can make tons and tons of money of them just bringing the heat in spots like these. You really need to consider what he is putting us on. We raised preflop so whats going through the fishes head is probably hands like AsKx, AsAx, KK, KQ etc. I can asure you, most nl100 player with a low flush in this spot is thinking the same thing "how do I get all the money in the middle the fastest way possible?"

That makes sense to me thanks. I dont want to argue with anyone anymore.

also, this is prima. Ppl are retarded.

On July 16 2007 04:46 Kapol wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2007 04:40 The72o wrote: this guy called /w A5s oop and you think that he could laydown lower flush? Our Australian friend thinks he is a nit. Well, OK then .

I am not your friend

oh the drama