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Handnr: 240549
Submitted by : twotimesopt

PokerStars Game #11201879076: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/07/29 - 15:41:51 (ET)
Table 'Freia II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: andixxx ($414.10 in chips)
Seat 2: 747cam ($221.30 in chips)
Seat 3: adam001 ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: twotimesopt ($443 in chips)
Seat 5: Pe-T ($439 in chips)
Seat 6: bengiec ($617.90 in chips)
andixxx: posts small blind $2
747cam: posts big blind $4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to twotimesopt JcJs
adam001: folds
twotimesopt : raises $12 to $16
Pe-T: folds
bengiec: folds
andixxx: calls $14
747cam: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $36.00)

   9d8h2c
andixxx: checks
twotimesopt : bets $24
andixxx: calls $24

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $84.00)

   9d8h2c2h
andixxx: checks
twotimesopt : checks

River (Pot : $84.00)

   9d8h2c2hKs
andixxx: checks
twotimesopt : bets $80
andixxx: calls $80

Showdown
twotimesopt : shows JcJs (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
andixxx: mucks hand
twotimesopt collected $241 from pot

Summary
Total pot $244 | Rake $3
Board  9d8h2c2hKs
Seat 1: andixxx (small blind) mucked 8dTh
Seat 2: 747cam (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: adam001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: twotimesopt showed JcJs and won ($241) with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 5: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bengiec (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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twotimesopt   United States. Jul 29 2007 13:46. Posts 2393

nice call there buddy...

do most people bet this turn? i think i'm a little weak/tight after playing a lot of FR recently...

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Kapol   Poland. Jul 29 2007 13:48. Posts 4696

Yes, bet the turn obviously. Make str8 draws pay. And if this guy is loose passive, then he'll pay you off w/ an 8 or a 9. And it looks like he is.

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ploper   France. Jul 29 2007 14:14. Posts 608

i bet the turn because you'd do it with air too

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Day[9]   United States. Jul 29 2007 14:58. Posts 3447

hmm i disagree

i think checking the turn here (sometimes) is a really great way to extract value.

its much more likely when he called the flop that he has a weak pair instead of a draw. he'll probably fold his weak pair to a 2nd barrel, so checking allows you to pick up some value w/ a river bet.

i do this line alot esp vs players who like to call on flops w/ small PP or weak pairs (as this player did)

i'd be a LITTLE wary of betting so hard when that king falls. alot of players (esp at 2/4) LOVE putting you on AK. since you're trying to get value out of weak pairs, you might want to bet closer to 60$, as most weak pairs will call that bet significantly more often.

if you like the idea of bet/check/bet for value and start doing it regularly, be sure to occasionally bet the turn w/ overpairs (like in this hand) so that people will believe your 2 barrels more


twotimesopt   United States. Jul 29 2007 15:17. Posts 2393


  On July 29 2007 13:58 Day[9] wrote:
hmm i disagree

i think checking the turn here (sometimes) is a really great way to extract value.

its much more likely when he called the flop that he has a weak pair instead of a draw. he'll probably fold his weak pair to a 2nd barrel, so checking allows you to pick up some value w/ a river bet.

i do this line alot esp vs players who like to call on flops w/ small PP or weak pairs (as this player did)

i'd be a LITTLE wary of betting so hard when that king falls. alot of players (esp at 2/4) LOVE putting you on AK. since you're trying to get value out of weak pairs, you might want to bet closer to 60$, as most weak pairs will call that bet significantly more often.

if you like the idea of bet/check/bet for value and start doing it regularly, be sure to occasionally bet the turn w/ overpairs (like in this hand) so that people will believe your 2 barrels more




great advice sean (and all) - thanks!

quit tryin to be a repo man - definitely -EV and negative expectancy - AvidGambler 

 

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