PokerStars Game #4865403401: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/05/07 - 21:12:09 (ET)
Table 'Khryses III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: chrisT18 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 2: bnnogood ($25.30 in chips)
Seat 3: fishbulb ($12.20 in chips)
Seat 4: SixMileDrive ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 6: lonewolf4412 ($16.25 in chips)
SixMileDrive: posts small blind $0.10
lonewolf4412: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards
Dealt to chrisT18
chrisT18: raises $0.75 to $1
bnnogood: calls $1
fishbulb: calls $1
SixMileDrive: folds
lonewolf4412: folds
Flop (Pot : $3.35)
kayman55 joins the table at seat #5
chrisT18: checks
bnnogood: checks
fishbulb: checks
Turn (Pot : $3.35)
chrisT18: checks
bnnogood: checks
fishbulb: checks
River (Pot : $3.35)
chrisT18: bets $1
bnnogood: folds
fishbulb: raises $1 to $2
chrisT18: calls $1
Showdown
fishbulb: shows (a full house, Eights full of Aces)
chrisT18: mucks hand
fishbulb collected $7 from pot
chrisT18 said, "a8 to a raise"
chrisT18 said, ".."
Summary
Total pot $7.35 | Rake $0.35
Board
Seat 1: chrisT18 mucked
Seat 2: bnnogood folded on the River
Seat 3: fishbulb (button) showed and won ($7) with a full house, Eights full of Aces
Seat 4: SixMileDrive (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: lonewolf4412 (big blind) folded before Flop
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 19:16. Posts 2414 | | |
any two
chrisT18: a8 to a raise
chrisT18: ..
chrisT18: giant donk
SixMileDrive: took your money didn't he
fishbulb: bitter much??
fishbulb: she
dumb bitch call stations OMG SOOTED |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 19:17. Posts 6345 | | |
i don't see anything wrong with his play here
axsuited is a definitely playable pf |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 19:24. Posts 2414 | | |
not when I fucking raise
my raiseing range is: AA KK QQ AK
ok, Ace hits, he beats A7? |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 19:32. Posts 6144 | | |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 19:35. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 18:32 Pokerintheface wrote:
lol shut up |
who the fuck are you?
exactly |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 19:36. Posts 6345 | | |
fishbulb collected $7 from pot
OH NO!!!!!! SEVEN DOLLAR POT |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 19:37. Posts 6345 | | |
so you don't raise with JJ TT AQ AJ AT or any other pocket pair?
that's a VERY BAD range |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 19:40. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 18:37 fira wrote:
so you don't raise with JJ TT AQ AJ AT or any other pocket pair?
that's a VERY BAD range |
if you're raiseing with AJ AT and 55 then ur worse then then this a8 donk.
I was refering to the fact im UTG.... as ill raise AQs and JJ TT from LP |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 19:42. Posts 6345 | | |
utg in 5player table?
i raise with 22-AA, KTs, KJ, KQ, AK, AQ, AJ, AT
you have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 19:43. Posts 6144 | | |
l o l
that is a good policy 6-max, AQs and JJ are not a good hands utg! first to act pf!! what if someone has AA youre dominated11 |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 19:43. Posts 6144 | | |
TIGHT AGGRESSIVE IS THE WAY TO GO |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 19:47. Posts 2414 | | |
when you get fucked over as much as me, you understand its -ev to raise anything other then the top 8 or so starting hands.
..unless I need to bring up some hands from 2 days ago where k2o limp calls 8bb's, or J8 calls 7 bb from SB and spikes trip 8's vs my KK
raiseing means playing for stacks with me... |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 19:49. Posts 2414 | | |
and thats my range for full ring, as I was only playing a few hundred hands of 6 max, because people push with hella lesser holdings |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 19:49. Posts 6345 | | |
| On May 07 2006 18:47 mad1337nes wrote:
when you get fucked over as much as me, you understand its -ev to raise anything other then the top 8 or so starting hands.
..unless I need to bring up some hands from 2 days ago where k2o limp calls 8bb's, or J8 calls 7 bb from SB and spikes trip 8's vs my KK
raiseing means playing for stacks with me... |
if they spike trip 8s and you have a lesser hand than KK, say 55, and all you have is middle pair, you have an easier time folding. raising with the best hand pf does NOT mean it's more +ev than raising with a greater range of hands because you're much more easily trapped and it's much easier to milk you postflop
not to mention it's easier to predict your hand as well
and you'll almost never get value out of sets if you don't raise small pps pf |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 19:51. Posts 6144 | | |
zogm bad beets zgomzzzogzgozmz
shut up |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 19:55. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 18:49 fira wrote:
if they spike trip 8s and you have a lesser hand than KK, say 55, and all you have is middle pair, you have an easier time folding. raising with the best hand pf does NOT mean it's more +ev than raising with a greater range of hands because you're much more easily trapped and it's much easier to milk you postflop |
my hands in example were like 5 limpers and I raised.
full ring you dont need to "mix up" your raiseing range.
micro, you dont need to "mix up" your raiseing range..... its just a fucking crapshoot that Lee Jones lets them win because their accts are marked "super fish... we need more deposit money fo sho"
ok, im jokeing about the lee jones remark.... but A8 bitch is calling with like k7o to raises and then sucking out on river... and then uses the "hey, its gambling" or "I had a feeling" or "you never know" and then when I called them pieces of shit, "I won, didnt I" |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 19:59. Posts 6345 | | |
you need to control your temper, it's a 7$ pot
plus axs is often a bigger moneymaker than ako |
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Red9   Canada. May 07 2006 20:00. Posts 7447 | | |
"any two cards can win".. isnt that what they say about holdem? |
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I will grind you into dust. | |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:01. Posts 6144 | | |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:03. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 18:59 fira wrote:
you need to control your temper, it's a 7$ pot
plus axs is often a bigger moneymaker than ako |
Fira, you dont understand... I dont have a "temper"
im not mad. I laugh at shit like this.
The beats I take are halarious.... and I really dont care anymore when I get rivered by 2 outters for full stacks 5 times an hour, like yesterday (read: like 1/5th my BR).
I only posted this for the "any two" factor.
I honestly dont need anyone to comment on my play, or atleast on this hand.... If you'd like to give me advice, then feel free to when I ask for it//it looks like I need it... but being as im rather TAG, I dont usually have to make very hard decidetions in hands. |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:04. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 19:01 Pokerintheface wrote:
hey
hey
hey
shut up |
nl10 tables dry today?
Nothing better to do? |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:05. Posts 6144 | | |
there is no any 2 factor to this hand and you are not TAG, you are weak tight |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:05. Posts 2414 | | |
im deleteing this in about 5 mins.... PM me if this somehow needs further discussion |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 20:07. Posts 6345 | | |
| On May 07 2006 19:05 Pokerintheface wrote:
you are not TAG, you are weak tight |
i have to agree here. |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:09. Posts 6144 | | |
yes i would like to discuss why you're such a whiny bitch plz PM me if you have any questions or comments on the matter |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:11. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 19:09 Pokerintheface wrote:
yes i would like to discuss why you're such a whiny bitch plz PM me if you have any questions or comments on the matter |
no seriously..... nl10 is where pros are made |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:12. Posts 6144 | | |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:15. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 19:12 Pokerintheface wrote:
i dont play nl10 sir |
then what do you play, because you havent posted a hand in a month, and if Im correct, you played nl10 when I did.... and you sucked. |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:17. Posts 6144 | | |
lol i moved up to NL50 in mid march then i lost more than half my roll on tilt and now i'm playing NL25 again and yes i have posted several hands recently mostly on NL25 |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:18. Posts 6144 | | |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:20. Posts 2414 | | |
hahahhaa yep
you fucking sucked at nl10.... and im sure not much has changed
homo with some sunshine av. |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:22. Posts 6144 | | |
i sucked at nl10 right well my hh's are right there please feel free to point out my poorly played hands from 3 months ago when i first started playing poker!
ok now to find some bad hands you've played
oh whaddya know i found one just by scrolling up
whaddya know
whad da ya know |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:25. Posts 2414 | | |
ok, fine... then (not results orriented) tell me your line for this hand?
cont bet flop.... donk calls trying to "trap"
check turn, donk checks
river TPTK bet, get min raised.
congrats, u lost 6 more bb's then I did with your superior playing skills
k thx |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:30. Posts 6144 | | |
i would check the river if i cont bet on the flop, and a flop like that is extremely safe to cont bet on because it's unlikely that any of those players connected with a board like that, you have to keep flop texture in mind
checking the flop is ok but i think that betting is definitely the best play on a flop of that sort
obviously if you get called you'd check the turn and frankly i would be inclined to check the river as well because if somebody called the flop they either have 67 and will not call a bet, have an 8, or a middle pp like 66 or 77 and will not call a bet on the river
however as you played it you made a TERRIBLE fuckin river bet of $1 into $3. your opponents will put you on an ace high because of your pf raise so only a weaker ace or an 8 will call you, so i would bet $2 or more into that pot because the ace is what i was looking for, and i want to get a call from a weaker ace, if somebody slowplayed an 8 and minraised i will pay him off and if somebody slowplayed an 8 and raises big on the river i will probably be able to get away |
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PoorUser   United States. May 07 2006 20:30. Posts 7471 | | |
madness you suck - dont bitch about losing one fucking hand
be happy he didnt take more money off you because he probably sucks worse than you do
christ |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:35. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 19:30 Pokerintheface wrote:
i would be inclined to check the river as well
not weaktight at all, make a hand and check... like it
weaker ace or an 8 will call you, so i would bet $2 or more into that pot because the ace is what i was looking for, and i want to get a call from a weaker ace
small ass pot, dont mind betting weak into it and letting smallish PP and/or weak ace calling.... which is what the donk hand minus the fact it was a8
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I didnt post this for critiqueing.... i posted for halarity
and I reviewed some of your hands.... and yes, you fucking suck
"I knew i shouldnt be calling here.. but im a fucking call station that calls with low str8 on a 4 str8 board in a 3 way pot" |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:41. Posts 6144 | | |
feel free to post the hands you think are bad and if you think weaktight is defined by checking a river with TPTK then you're a dumbass, i explained why checking the river would be best if i continuation bet on the flop because only a better hand will call/raise and a worse hand will check behind and i will win the pot so it is -EV to bet on the river, there is pretty much no way i can put him on an ace high like A9 or AT, MAYBE A5 would call the river if he called the flop but that doesnt make up for the number of other hands against which a river bet is meaningless, and at NL25 i do not have to worry about 67 or a medium pair trying to make a play on me on the river, and i'd probably call a medium sized bet anyway
you're a dumbass if you think a small pp is going to call on an ace river, ace is the ultimate scare card in a raised pot so you're only getting called by an 8 or a weaker ace because of the flop and turn action. if he has an 8 boo hoo pay off his minraise and if he has an A you just won an extra $2 and if he folds you win the pot who cares |
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Logiabs~   Colombia. May 07 2006 20:45. Posts 9133 | | |
this is the hand which has had most posts ever |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:45. Posts 6144 | | |
no poorusers AA hand had 101 posts |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 20:49. Posts 2414 | | |
so in other words... my line just saved me 8bb's compared to your "better" play
and if you think that anything that calls a cont bet has you beat...then you havent played nl25 in a while (which is why I tend to not cont bet in 3 way pots.... as someone is going to call with anything/nothing... and you dont pick up any more info on their hand.... then again, im not PRO like you) |
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all_in_4tw   Canada. May 07 2006 20:52. Posts 4515 | | |
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I sometimes fold AA preflop to balance my range | |
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Moloch   United States. May 07 2006 20:55. Posts 6144 | | |
| On May 07 2006 19:49 mad1337nes wrote:
so in other words... my line just saved me 8bb's compared to your "better" play |
yay for results oriented mr hotshot i believe you mentioned the phrase somewhere earlier not sure what the context was
| and if you think that anything that calls a cont bet has you beat...then you havent played nl25 in a while (which is why I tend to not cont bet in 3 way pots.... as someone is going to call with anything/nothing... and you dont pick up any more info on their hand.... then again, im not PRO like you) |
well sir chances are that ace king high is good on a board like 588 its pretty intuitive that most of the time nobody has a 5 or an 8 or a pp like 66 77 99 TT and you can win the pot on the flop with a decent bet |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 21:05. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 19:55 Pokerintheface wrote:
well sir chances are that ace king high is good on a board like 588 its pretty intuitive that most of the time nobody has a 5 or an 8 or a pp like 66 77 99 TT and you can win the pot on the flop with a decent bet |
dude, u just named half the PP's in a deck of cards.
people call with 2 overs or small PP esp if they think you missed flop.
22 33 44 55 66 77 99 TT JJ, KQ, 67
hmmmm... great place to cont bet into call stations (omg couldnt see that in the HH could you?)
yeah, AK is good here.
hypothetically, 2 callers on flop.
turn? fire fire fire again? rep overpair? Long dark road, "sir". |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 21:08. Posts 2414 | | |
turn pot is 9 (id bet about 2 into that as a cont bet)
fire another 7 on turn (only KQ/AQ improve)? 1 caller
23 river. check call now that you have a hand.
grats.... click, reload 15+
Then again, you're Pokerherintheface.... you could probably outplay her (no penis= giant call station) and make her fold trips. |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 21:23. Posts 2414 | | |
oh GK is trying to speak up now?
dont you have a kangaroo/Ket to molest or something?
w-t-f mate? |
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fira   United States. May 07 2006 21:27. Posts 6345 | | |
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Karma   Australia. May 07 2006 21:33. Posts 3538 | | |
| On May 07 2006 20:23 mad1337nes wrote:
oh GK is trying to speak up now?
dont you have a kangaroo/Ket to molest or something?
w-t-f mate? |
Funny Joke.
Where did you did this Ket thing?
Kangaroos haha, I get it! It's cos I'm from Australia right?! Ha Ha hilarious Very clever.
If people don't like Americans it's because of people like you. |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 21:33. Posts 2414 | | |
lets not, I just want to watch Pokeher keep rambling on and on about how it was a bad play on my part to check and then bet when I made a hand. |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 21:35. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 20:33 GoodKarma wrote:
Jesus Christ I got dominated.
Time to climb back into my hole.
*in a rather feminine voice*
G'day.
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Karma   Australia. May 07 2006 21:37. Posts 3538 | | |
Stereotype/Nationaility jokes = Very funny.
Gay jokes = Even funnier. |
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fish mentality | Last edit: 07/05/2006 21:38 |
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mad1337nes   United States. May 07 2006 21:43. Posts 2414 | | |
| On May 07 2006 20:37 GoodKarma wrote:
again, I get dominated.... so ill stfu and try and go as quietly as possible. |
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Karma   Australia. May 07 2006 21:48. Posts 3538 | | |
We're all clay in your hands. |
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