So much justice in this world. And I can console myself that my read was spot on, a middle pair, and I just got unlucky he flopped the FH.

lol, nice suckout. I would fold flop all day against an unknown.
heh, actually this guy has been out-nitting you all day, why would you think he is lite here.

If he had a middle pair, why would you call the flop raise seeing how you had no implied odds if you hit an A or K to get paid?

Idiot

On October 31 2007 05:35 exalted wrote: If he had a middle pair, why would you call the flop raise seeing how you had no implied odds if you hit an A or K to get paid? Idiot

u'll actually quite wrong u dumb fuck.

it is absolutely good to call a min raise and steal later if u put him on lite shit. dumb idiot.

wobbly go lose another 20k

this is such a poor board to 'steal later', despite having outs if called

rr more preflop

12% chance of hitting on the turn.
Very high % chance of him raising turn if I check.
Very high % chance of it going AI if I check/AI turn because we're so deep anyway.
Flop call/showdown cash = 5%
12% > 5%
Any questions exalted?

if you put him on a midpair just shove flop dude. Hes commited himself on the turn

ummmm lol go clarify your arguments

"Very high % chance of him raising turn if I check." you mean betting, right?
"Very high % chance of it going AI if I check/AI turn because we're so deep anyway." you mean the pot is large because its a RRed, right?

plz don't try to explain your logic to me

If you're only making this play on a A or K it is unprofitable, you apparently think you have implied odds when you clearly don't, wobbly's argument is correct but we both know you're never bluffing here, don't use fuzzy logic to explain your shitty play

If I check turn and he has TT he will raise in case I'm on a heart draw. If I check, he raises and I go AI he will call. Therefore if I hit on the turn I can get it AI.
Therefore 12% of the time I call flop I will make 20 dollars (assuming he's on TT).
Therefore 12% of the time I call .95 I will recieve 20

This is good

ummmm lol go clarify your arguments

plz don't try to explain your logic to me

On October 31 2007 05:42 exalted wrote: wobbly go lose another 20k

Didnt you go play 10/20 on tilt?

someone cant fold ak

if you put him on a mid pair you should try to push him off it when you have the best equity if called. + hes definitely not always firing a second barrel with a mid pair if you call flop. You shouldnt draw for 6 scary outs in a reraised pot when you could be drawing almost dead.

Your logic is pretty flawed dude

On October 31 2007 05:54 KwarK wrote: If I check turn and he has TT he will raise in case I'm on a heart draw. If I check, he raises and I go AI he will call. Therefore if I hit on the turn I can get it AI. Therefore 12% of the time I call flop I will make 20 dollars (assuming he's on TT). Therefore 12% of the time I call .95 I will recieve 20 This is good Show nested quote + ummmm lol go clarify your arguments   plz don't try to explain your logic to me

And all the times he checks behind? The times he has KK? The times he has AA? The times he has a 9? The times HE has a flushdraw and checks behind? The times he has 77?

He's not going to always bet the turn with a midpair, in fact, 90% of the time I'd say he wont! Protecting against a heartdraw, what? He's not going to know what that even means for the most part, it's NL10 AND it's a reraised pot, he's hardly gonna put you on hearts the minute you call his raise.

You are being way too optimistic about your chances of winning if you hit..

Only time I'd call with AK here is if I thought I was ahead or for sure could bluff him off.. Just fold and wait for a better spot, honestly.

HE CANNOT RAISE IF YOU CHECK DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE WORDS BET RAISE CHECK AND FOLD MEAN