who likes to bet the turn and who likes to check/raise?

i 3bet and cbet a lot so i like to checkraise if im gonna play a hand so it makes it harder for people to float me

i like to bet turn here since i think a draw and a king are a huge part of his range, then again i don't know the player

check raise is great if his af is high on turn

On March 05 2008 22:18 Fayth wrote: i like to bet turn here since i think a draw and a king are a huge part of his range, then again i don't know the player check raise is great if his af is high on turn

this sounds really smart
probably because its right

meh i don't mind the check

i disagree. any pair is part of his range and floats

i obv understand the logic of betting but i think in a standerdly aggresive 6max game in positions like this. he folds anything except KJ or better king
and sometimes felts QQ or JJ i dunno prob not actually

basically id just like to have someone evaluate ranges and explain to me if my logic is bad or not =( or if i have a misconception on his actual calling range

this is absolutely terrible

double barreling is generally gonna be much better float protection but i think a scared king is making up a very large portion of his range so i think checking the turn is the best way to get max value here

checking turn is viable sure but the river bet is terrible

well the pairs you would fold out on turn betting, do you expect to get value out of them on the river?

On March 05 2008 22:34 Bigbobm wrote: well the pairs you would fold out on turn betting, do you expect to get value out of them on the river?

in a word
yes

On March 05 2008 22:30 KeanuReaver wrote: double barreling is generally gonna be much better float protection but i think a scared king is making up a very large portion of his range so i think checking the turn is the best way to get max value here

kings dont fold to a turn bet.


checking or betting only depends on his agression factor, dont say crap like "his agression factor on turn" ffs -_-, u need like a 10k hand sample to get accurate AF per street

dont love the turn check without a strong read he's gonna be betting there when u check which it seems u had and were wrong.. river bet can be good sometimes just depends on your read on his holding, impossible for me to even consider spades here =o

On March 05 2008 22:30 Loco wrote: checking turn is viable sure but the river bet is terrible

wait WHAT ...

the riverbet is like 100% standerd

if i check turn and it checks through i HAVE to bet this river. its like setting money on fire if i dont

EDIT: unless he bluffs shoves rivers if he thinks i VB thin

On March 05 2008 22:45 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2008 22:30 KeanuReaver wrote: double barreling is generally gonna be much better float protection but i think a scared king is making up a very large portion of his range so i think checking the turn is the best way to get max value here kings dont fold to a turn bet. checking or betting only depends on his agression factor, dont say crap like "his agression factor on turn" ffs -_-, u need like a 10k hand sample to get accurate AF per street

is it really that common to be winning a 300~ bb pot here against a hand like KJ or KQ?

and wtf i didn't say anything about turn AF
fucking baal