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Handnr: 420105
Submitted by : nolan

PokerStars Game #16557562123: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/04/07 - 14:50:05 (ET)
Table 'Algebar II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: *Jürgen*36 ($1088.60 in chips)
Seat 2: chambraigne ($388 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($453.50 in chips)
Seat 4: kjell_morten ($400 in chips)
Seat 5: swoooosh ($370 in chips)
Seat 6: Kent_Nielsen ($228.50 in chips)
chambraigne: posts small blind $2
Hero : posts big blind $4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero Tc9c
kjell_morten: folds
swoooosh: folds
Kent_Nielsen: folds
*Jürgen*36: raises $8 to $12
chambraigne: folds
Hero : raises $36 to $48
*Jürgen*36: calls $36

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $98.00)

   3s9h8s
Hero : bets $60
*Jürgen*36: raises $60 to $120
Hero : raises $285.50 to $405.50 and is all-in
*Jürgen*36: calls $285.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $909.00)

   3s9h8s2s

River (Pot : $909.00)

   3s9h8s2sAd

Showdown
Hero : shows Tc9c (a pair of Nines)
*Jürgen*36: shows JsQs (a flush, Queen high)
*Jürgen*36 collected $906 from pot

Summary
Total pot $909 | Rake $3
Board  3s9h8s2sAd
Seat 1: *Jürgen*36 (button) showed JsQs and won ($906) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 2: chambraigne (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Hero (big blind) showed Tc9c and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 4: kjell_morten folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: swoooosh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Kent_Nielsen folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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MARSHALL28   United States. Apr 07 2008 17:07. Posts 1897

what scuks about this spot is that if bluffs arent like at least a 30% of villains range here that everything u get it in against has sick good equity vs u or crushes u. or if the dynamic is such that u expect him to get it in w/ 44-77 here for value thats all in your gut thoguh. only hand that isnt a bluff that u have decent equity vs that isnt in the range of smaller pairs is 67. i used to adopt that flop top pr and never fold in a 3bet pot idea, but the more i think and learn about the game i think there are quite a few spots where it's just gonna be a huge mistake.

i think his minraise polarizes his range to strong draws, 2pr/set type hands and pure bluffs, so i kinda like to just flat it and then make the decision as to whether to play for stacks on the turn. i realize that there are a lot of scary turns but .. .problem is .. the more scary turns there are the less eqiuty u have against his semi bluffing range regardless.

other option is to just toss it on the flop after he minraises u. u have no kicker and when called are never in good shape.

(this all changes if youve been 3betting him so much that his flatting and minraising range is ridiculously wide obv, but i can only analyze it in a vacuum)

interseting spot thoguh

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