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Handnr: 427055
Submitted by : Baalim

PokerStars Game #16792626891: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2008/04/17 - 10:00:39 (ET)
Table 'Annschnell II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: redeye3030 ($591 in chips)
Seat 2: DJV384 ($609 in chips)
Seat 3: Joeik ($600 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($835.30 in chips)
Seat 6: PiS.ToTo ($2459.55 in chips)
DJV384: posts small blind $3
Joeik: posts big blind $6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero JhKd
Hero : raises $15 to $21
PiS.ToTo: calls $21
redeye3030: folds
DJV384: folds
Joeik: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $51.00)

   3cAdKh
Hero : bets $38
PiS.ToTo: calls $38

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $127.00)

   3cAdKhKs
Hero : checks
slainew joins the table at seat #4
PiS.ToTo: bets $84
Hero : calls $84

River (Pot : $295.00)

   3cAdKhKs2h
Hero : bets $130
PiS.ToTo: raises $2186.55 to $2316.55 and is all-in
Hero : calls $562.30 and is all-in

Showdown
PiS.ToTo: shows QdAs (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Hero : shows JhKd (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero collected $1677.60 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1679.60 | Rake $2
Board  3cAdKhKs2h
Seat 1: redeye3030 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DJV384 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Joeik (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Hero showed JhKd and won ($1677.60) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: PiS.ToTo showed QdAs and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 17 2008 08:04. Posts 34262

yaaaaaaaay! he totally fell for it but i tought he would turn a more raggy Ace into a bluff tbh didnt expect him to turn it with such a good kicker

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Three7MTL   Canada. Apr 17 2008 08:12. Posts 597

aww koreans


PandaSaurus   Australia. Apr 17 2008 08:16. Posts 1651

Gah, I don't get villain's river raise. His hand surely has great showdown potential, and even if you have air you're hardly calling this river.

Maybe if you have Ax, but your line doesn't make sense for a hand like that.

Am I totally off base here?

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Oly   United Kingdom. Apr 17 2008 08:18. Posts 3585

Wow, that is a totally beautiful line. The river bet is really the icing on the cake. You totally induced him.

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Oly   United Kingdom. Apr 17 2008 08:20. Posts 3585

And I don't think he was turning it into a bluff. I think he was going for very thin value against an apparent blocking bet from a weaker ace.

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Muhweli   Finland. Apr 17 2008 08:27. Posts 10663


  On April 17 2008 07:20 Oly wrote:
And I don't think he was turning it into a bluff. I think he was going for very thin value against an apparent blocking bet from a weaker ace.



No. He's pushing in 100 BB there, he's not getting called by a weaker ace here ever.

I'd much rather do this as a bluff if I was villain.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 17 2008 09:05. Posts 34262

we are too deep to get value from an ace, maybe if we were 100bb deep...

i think he is just mixing his range knowing that there is no value in raising if i have a weaker ace and also that we are deep enough to make me fold some king because well, the way he played he hand he is repping KQ+ and i "should" fold KJ if i really bough his line.

i didnt snap call like "zomg trips calls" his line says he has me beat but the line i took could have induced his Ace and i actually expected him to do so with an ace with no showdown value like A9s or AT

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iakim322   United States. Apr 17 2008 09:09. Posts 1335

uhm. considering the fact that villain is an idiot, a retarded value bet is not implausible.


iakim322   United States. Apr 17 2008 09:11. Posts 1335

in fact, an idiot turning a hand with such definitive showdown value into a bluff (really advanced in rare spots) is more unlikely than a retarded value bet imo.


Pillars   United States. Apr 17 2008 09:56. Posts 1049


  On April 17 2008 08:05 Baal wrote:
we are too deep to get value from an ace, maybe if we were 100bb deep...

i think he is just mixing his range knowing that there is no value in raising if i have a weaker ace and also that we are deep enough to make me fold some king because well, the way he played he hand he is repping KQ+ and i "should" fold KJ if i really bough his line.

i didnt snap call like "zomg trips calls" his line says he has me beat but the line i took could have induced his Ace and i actually expected him to do so with an ace with no showdown value like A9s or AT



Dunno. If he doesn't respect you yet he could very well be doing this for value [as he has the nut two pair] and your line looks exactly like the line a weak player would take with a marginal ace. I'm pretty sure he'd be willing to do this even 150BB deep.


Ket    United Kingdom. Apr 17 2008 10:36. Posts 8665

this is def a value shove trying to get looked up by a worse ace


 

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