I was pretty sure I was beat, what would he limp then call that big of a raise with preflop besides a PP, and why would he check/push turn? What do you guys think

it's either flopped hand or turned AK,

He may have smelled blood from your very weak bet on the turn.

He could have easilly put you on TT or JJ or QQ, then bet the scarecard.

Is he really gonna call a set with the board that connected.

/shrug.

wait is this a joke

raise the flop, easy call on the turn

call flop push turn is usually a sign of a monster, on the flop id go all-in

On June 30 2006 16:11 KingKory wrote: Is he really gonna call a set with the board that connected. .

eeeeerrr yes. do you think the pf raiser flopped a straight?


....... great thinking

How is it an easy call on the turn? Preflop he limps in then calls 6x the BB raise... that almost always signifies mid/low PP at full ring 50NL. Then he bets out on the flop.. isnt it likely he bet the flop because the flop had so many draws and he hit his set?

this looks a shitload like a big draw, like 68d or 9Td

notice that the king is not a diamond, he could easily do this with KJd or KQd

you're ahead a of a shitload of hands and you have an overpair on a 2flush and connecting board, but one which has no *reasonable* straights possible. yes he could have a set here, buts its more likely that he's on a draw here imo

even when he has a set you got 5% to win and a lot more against 2pur

Well he's pretty crazy if he limps then calls 6x BB preflop with 910D... extremely unlikely he had 68d

not really, because if he calls then teddybear also probably calls, so the pot goes multiway

I understand what you're saying, but 90% of the time at the tables I play at limp then call 6x the BB preflop = small/med PP.

bomb that flop

How would another person calling justify playing 68D for 6x the BB preflop?

sets are possible on every goddamn board imaginable, this is fine a board as any to get your money in with aces imo because of how drawy it is

On June 30 2006 16:42 Emperor wrote: How would another person calling justify playing 68D for 6x the BB preflop?

potodds.


more players = bigger pot for less money = yeehaw stack with weird ANY TWO

68d is a good hand, only slightly worse than 67d, and many people love playing it to raises especially when its likely the pot goes multiway (multiway = drawing hands like PP's and SC's go up in value, big pairs and AK/AQ go down)

Ok well I know I sound like a broken record, but the vast majority of the time(around 90%) when someone limps then calls that big of a raise preflop it's because they have a med/low PP(MAYBE 9's through J's).

I just think with that preflop play a PP is much more likely than anything else... and with the way he played it the only PP I could beat was 66 imo.

Lucifer, when someone raises 6x the BB preflop you call with any suited hand?

just bomb the flop

so if somebody limp/calls and you got aces and they want to put money in the pot you assume he has a set and you're beat your aces are no good blah blah

weakass poker, if he has a set he has a set, reload and wipe your face

Look at his play on the turn, check/push on that board? If he had a monster draw, why would he push at all? Why wouldnt he just call?

lol, for fold equity obviously

i mean shit, you folded fucking pocket aces, obviously the play works, i would probably do the same

Although I agree with you on the flop, I should have re-raised. Lets say I did re-raise him to 20 on the flop and he pushed, what would you put him on then?

I'm just not seeing how you're so convinced that he doesnt have a set there... I think a set is more likely than anything else with that preflop and post-flop play..

if he pushed the flop, it's close, but i'd probably be able to find it in me to fold there unless i knew more about the player.

on the turn you absolutely cannot fold how this was played

I'm just trying to figure out how you're so convinced he had a big draw when he pushed on the turn and not a set... I guess we just think differently but it really seems like a set to me.

show me your PT stats for AA i'm curious

Not sure what you mean by show, so I'll just write it down:

Hand---Times---Win%---Avg/Hand---BB/Hand
AA------246----91.46%----5.95------5.95

If you want any more info let me know

While I agree that it's right thing to fold here, I think his hand is something like K8s (not diamonds) here, that's a pretty standard (for a loose player) hand to call a raise after limping, then he's trying to steal the pot with TPTK (he would check-raise with set) and finally check-raise when he got his card on turn.

If he had pushed on the flop then you should say "shit" and pay him out if he has the set, which is very unlikely imho