PokerStars Game #19948881632: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/08/27 - 19:57:38 (ET)
Table 'Hiera III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: strungout889 ($18.15 in chips)
Seat 3: KwarK_uK ($32 in chips)
Seat 4: spadesnatch ($14.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Jimmy-Macd ($10.30 in chips)
Seat 6: protell ($23.25 in chips)
Jimmy-Macd: posts small blind $0.10
protell: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards
Dealt to KwarK_uK
ActionRickM leaves the table
strungout889 has timed out
strungout889: folds
strungout889 is sitting out
strungout889 has returned
KwarK_uK : raises $0.75 to $1
spadesnatch: folds
Jimmy-Macd: folds
protell: calls $0.75
Flop (Pot : $2.10)
protell: checks
KwarK_uK : bets $1.50
protell: raises $2.50 to $4
KwarK_uK : raises $4.50 to $8.50
protell: raises $13.75 to $22.25 and is all-in
KwarK_uK : folds
Uncalled bet ($13.75) returned to protell
protell collected $18.15 from pot
protell: doesn't show hand
Summary
Total pot $19.10 | Rake $0.95
Board
Seat 2: strungout889 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: KwarK_uK folded on the Flop
Seat 4: spadesnatch (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Jimmy-Macd (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: protell (big blind) collected ($18.15)
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TheHuHu   United States. Aug 27 2008 18:01. Posts 4271 | | |
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I have always wanted to quote myself. - Me | |
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KwarK   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2008 18:06. Posts 1019 | | |
How is this? I think he can reraise that flop with a lot of hands trying to catch out a cbet or drawy hands so I 3 bet to see if he's on a random Ax or on AJ or 66. His 4 bet shove made me sure I was behind. |
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Shad   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2008 18:07. Posts 866 | | |
Insta call imo?? Also would like to see some comments on raise sizing, if you are reraising AK what's a good amount to make it?
edit: I would probably make it $12.50 looking to get it in =/ |
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Naolan wrote: for $25 i will make a new account. Liquid`Meat: for $0,- i ban your account. | Last edit: 27/08/2008 18:08 |
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KwarK   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2008 18:13. Posts 1019 | | |
I normally do play TPTK that aggressively and I normally donk off vs flopped 2 pairs and sets with TP despite them playing like they have the nuts. I've been trying to build bet/fold into my game far more for those spots because I think they're a leak. This was the first example of it so I thought I'd try and get some feedbakc. |
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NerO   United States. Aug 27 2008 18:20. Posts 2402 | | |
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lachlan   Australia. Aug 27 2008 18:21. Posts 6991 | | |
i used to do this too, but to put it simply, the more money you put in on that flop, the exponentially higher need there is for you to call off all ur chips. its like $13 bucks to win $X amount in the pot, which means you can still be a pretty big dog but you still want to call as its profitable to do this, since even if you dont win the pot too often you will end up with more money then if u fold every time |
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Shad   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2008 18:22. Posts 866 | | |
Wouldn't mind seeing some comments from good players myself.
imo:
I think the times where you have NL25 opps crushed on hands like this more than make up for the sets etc. Not to mention you still have outs and backdoor nut flush draw vs AJ, alllllllll in. |
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Naolan wrote: for $25 i will make a new account. Liquid`Meat: for $0,- i ban your account. | |
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KwarK   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2008 18:23. Posts 1019 | | |
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.118% 17.81% 10.30% 3351 1938.00 { AdKs }
Hand 1: 71.882% 61.58% 10.30% 11583 1938.00 { 66, AJs, A6s, AKo, AJo, A6o }
Ty Artanis. |
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KwarK   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2008 18:31. Posts 1019 | | |
My pot odds were 30% btw. |
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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Aug 27 2008 18:32. Posts 5647 | | |
EVcall = $46.5 (total pot) * 28.1% = $13.06
So even assuming your ubertight range for villian is correct, you are still only losing 70c on a call. LOLLERPOKER |
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lachlan   Australia. Aug 27 2008 18:33. Posts 6991 | | |
30% is enough to call his shove with, as played |
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DONKEYLUVIN   United States. Aug 27 2008 18:42. Posts 292 | | |
This is beyond ridiculous, he could be shoving a ton of draws here as well. Get the money in. |
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