Show hand : 529915

Handnr: 529915
Submitted by : VENOM

Full Tilt Poker Game #8135124101: Table Catalan Sails - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:50:26 ET - 2008/09/19
Seat 1: avsavs1 ($10.70)
Seat 2: pokergirlie11 ($13.95)
Seat 3: SuperFootWalrus ($52.90)
Seat 4: DRout ($50)
Seat 5: guoyl2002 ($9.25)
Seat 6: Kerry Layne ($64.25)
Seat 7: Starbuckin ($81.65)
Seat 8: davenigma ($97.75)
Seat 9: edgetrader ($50)
pokergirlie11 posts the small blind of $0.25
SuperFootWalrus posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to SuperFootWalrus
DRout folds
guoyl2002 folds
davenigma: whew
Kerry Layne raises to $1.50
Starbuckin folds
davenigma folds
edgetrader folds
DRout: nh
avsavs1 folds
pokergirlie11 folds
SuperFootWalrus raises to $4.75
Kerry Layne calls $3.25

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $9.75)

   
SuperFootWalrus has 15 seconds left to act
SuperFootWalrus checks
Kerry Layne bets $3.50
SuperFootWalrus raises to $10
Kerry Layne calls $6.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $29.75)

   
SuperFootWalrus has 15 seconds left to act
SuperFootWalrus bets $20
Kerry Layne raises to $40
SuperFootWalrus calls $18.15, and is all in
Kerry Layne shows
SuperFootWalrus shows
Uncalled bet of $1.85 returned to Kerry Layne

River (Pot : $106.05)

   
Kerry Layne shows a straight, Ten high
SuperFootWalrus shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
Kerry Layne wins the pot ($103.05) with a straight, Ten high
SuperFootWalrus adds $50

Summary
Total pot $106.05 | Rake $3
Board:  
Seat 1: avsavs1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: pokergirlie11 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: SuperFootWalrus (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 4: DRout didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: guoyl2002 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Kerry Layne showed and won ($103.05) with a straight, Ten high
Seat 7: Starbuckin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: davenigma didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: edgetrader didn't bet (folded)

Comments

VENOM   United States. Sep 19 2008 02:53. Posts 1383 thats pretty dirty... I saw T9...just didnt' want to believe it hoping for KK daylight keeps the shadows falling behind - Kenna / YadadaMeEn21 Last edit: 19/09/2008 02:53

traxamillion   United States. Sep 19 2008 02:54. Posts 10468 i like a larger preflop 3bet 5.5 or so

VENOM   United States. Sep 19 2008 02:56. Posts 1383 Im a FTP guy i just click pot...i'll keep that in mind though daylight keeps the shadows falling behind - Kenna / YadadaMeEn21

Exhilarate   United States. Sep 19 2008 02:58. Posts 5453 don't just click pot, size your 3bets to a good amount, back when i played 50nl, i did at least 5-6 depending on player/position

VENOM   United States. Sep 19 2008 03:03. Posts 1383 So you would have 3 bet a standard 1.75 raise 8-10 dollars? daylight keeps the shadows falling behind - Kenna / YadadaMeEn21 Last edit: 19/09/2008 03:05

KeanuReaver   United States. Sep 19 2008 03:07. Posts 2022 pf is fine flop is pretty bad though and the endurance required for MMA, which has actions like punching and kicking bone and muscle with 1000-2500 PSI. - Taco

VENOM   United States. Sep 19 2008 03:11. Posts 1383   On September 19 2008 02:07 KeanuReaver wrote: pf is fine flop is pretty bad though I Concur daylight keeps the shadows falling behind - Kenna / YadadaMeEn21

devon06atX   Canada. Sep 19 2008 03:14. Posts 5459 --- Nuked ---

VENOM   United States. Sep 19 2008 03:16. Posts 1383   On September 19 2008 02:14 devon06atX wrote: none of this is fine. you want to bet enough preflop to not give pp's profitable odds to set-mine against you what would you 3 bet 1.50 or 1.75 to preflop? don't you profit off those miners in the long run though? daylight keeps the shadows falling behind - Kenna / YadadaMeEn21 Last edit: 19/09/2008 03:17

devon06atX   Canada. Sep 19 2008 03:16. Posts 5459 --- Nuked ---

KeanuReaver   United States. Sep 19 2008 03:20. Posts 2022 stop playing situations and start playing ranges both yours and your villains and what the fuck, set mining for 10bb's will never be profitable. and the endurance required for MMA, which has actions like punching and kicking bone and muscle with 1000-2500 PSI. - Taco

VENOM   United States. Sep 19 2008 03:37. Posts 1383 Thanks for the help guys. I've come to the conclusion that yes i will keep playing ranges for both myself and villians, AND simply 3 bet harder post flop, and also boost my preflop bet sizing just slightly to ward off those miners since "what the fuck, set mining for 10bb's will never be profitable." :0) I couldn't put that villina on T9 though.....with that 3bet call...hmm..... thats gotta be -EV daylight keeps the shadows falling behind - Kenna / YadadaMeEn21 Last edit: 19/09/2008 03:38

traxamillion   United States. Sep 19 2008 03:42. Posts 10468 didnt even realize you check raised the flop yea def lead that

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Sep 19 2008 14:48. Posts 5070 pf is perfectly fine. i generally prefer to make it a bit more than pot when out of position since position matters less the smaller the stack to pot ratio is, but it's not as huge as people make out. flop is not necessarily bad depending on how often villain stabs, but i think if you do c/r you should make it bigger so you can jam the turn all in for ~pot sized bet (make flop like 15, jam any turn) One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hope

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