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Handnr: 558629
Submitted by : remember87

Full Tilt Poker Game #8745190209: Table Racel (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:06:35 ET - 2008/10/31
Seat 1: g0t T1lt 3 ($216)
Seat 2: michaelt12 ($764)
Seat 3: Hanley Ramirez ($203.70)
Seat 4: Mr Omahas ($214)
Seat 5: gangstaruns ($47.20)
Seat 6: Hero ($228)
Hero posts the small blind of $1
g0t T1lt 3 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KcQc
michaelt12 raises to $7
Hanley Ramirez folds
Mr Omahas folds
gangstaruns folds
Hero calls $6
g0t T1lt 3 has 15 seconds left to act
g0t T1lt 3 calls $5

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $21.00)

   7c2dQs
Hero checks
g0t T1lt 3 checks
michaelt12 bets $14
Hero calls $14
g0t T1lt 3 has 15 seconds left to act
g0t T1lt 3 folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $49.00)

   7c2dQs2s
Hero checks
michaelt12 checks

River (Pot : $49.00)

   7c2dQs2sAs
Hero bets $25
michaelt12 calls $25

Showdown
Hero shows KcQc two pair, Queens and Twos
michaelt12 shows Ah8h two pair, Aces and Twos
michaelt12 wins the pot ($96) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Hero adds $18

Summary
Total pot $99 | Rake $3
Board:  7c2dQs2sAs
Seat 1: g0t T1lt 3 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: michaelt12 showed Ah8h and won ($96) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 3: Hanley Ramirez didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Mr Omahas didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: gangstaruns (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Hero (small blind) showed KcQc and lost with two pair, Queens and Twos

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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Oct 31 2008 21:29. Posts 4697

you realize you're tying with other queens due to the ace right

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remember87   Sweden. Oct 31 2008 21:31. Posts 521

I screwed this hand pretty bad. I was going for a checkraise on the turn but he checked behind. So when the A came up I made a bet that was half for value and half as a blockbet.
I´m not shure at all this play is good at all. Can I make a check-fold? Is he checking behind enough with a bad A that I loose money in betting as a blockingbet? What do you think?

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remember87   Sweden. Oct 31 2008 21:32. Posts 521

I didnt put him on a Q so I was hoping to get value from a lower pair or save money if he had a an A (if he bet like 34$ or w/e)

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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Oct 31 2008 21:33. Posts 4697

You're not gaining any value by betting the river and queens that you tie with are not going to fold. I would just checkfold the river, since he will be checking behind any queens or underpairs and only bet things that beat you, normally. Check/call if you have a decent read, but betting seems quite bad.

Also, he's never going to call the river with an underpair. ever.

 Last edit: 31/10/2008 21:34

remember87   Sweden. Oct 31 2008 21:35. Posts 521

thanks, that was what I was hoping to hear

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Oct 31 2008 21:36. Posts 3096

river has to be either a check-call or check-fold I think
betting doesnt make much sense because you're only being called with hands that beat you or that you split with
check-call means you lose the same vs hands that beat you (or granted, possibly a few dollars more as you didnt fire very big) but that you can also beat bluffs, check-fold means you dont lose any more but that you can also be bluffed

lol POKER 

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Oct 31 2008 21:39. Posts 3096

in fact the only arguement I can see for betting river is wanting to bluff out a queen that now splits with you =p

lol POKER 

remember87   Sweden. Oct 31 2008 21:42. Posts 521

and that wasnt the purpose of the bet at all so I guess it should have been a check-fold then... as you are saying, I think he will only bet when he has me beat..

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