even the regulars are bad

why is he bad tho, he put u extremely weak pf so he went with it

im bad

but - we could talk about gbucks

The only hands I'm going to be shoving his flop bet with are hands that I'm ahead of or exactly 5-7.

so if he's goign to be stacking off here, it's probably best to check raise adn try to maek me bluff hands like JT.

my last 120k hands at 200 nl i'm down 2 1/2 buyins ..... : (

wow, sick run. thats quite the breakeven/losing stretch.

not 78? A5? A3? Axs backdoor? Once he bets he is priced into calling I think anyway... and he only bets because he knows a large % of your range is not pairs or AK, so basically he is ahead of your range a ton on this flop

I'm just sayin this cuz I do his play a lot when I am frustrated with aggros, i just take good preflop hands all the way especially on boards like this in a 4 bet pot.

how can you only shove 57 if you call 4bets with offsuited gappers? or he 4bets huge huge range and check folds everything but overpairs?

i guess, just seems bad to be stacking off there with aq. I probably just fold preflop if were him since we had zero history.

well if im calling 4 bets its generally because I think i can do something tricky postlfop for cheap. I play position pretty hard.

The only reason I called here is because I thoguth there might be a % that he was full of it because it was a squeeze situation on my part and he may have been frustrated. So in that case, I'll take a flop, especially ifs basically a min 4 bet. That's probably - ev, but it felt right at the time.

so if u had zero history why did you call a 4 bet with 57o? And ya 120k breakeven stretch was horrible and a ton of bad beats, but it really lead to about a 50k stretch of playing like absolute shit, playing 2 tables more than optimal, my won $ @sd dropped around 2% which leads me to think I was tilt calling with marginal hands way too much. I am going to play seriously starting may 10 when i graduate, i'm talking 120k hands a month at least. I hope I learned my lesson on how to avoid going on tilt and having long breakeven stretches

On November 13 2008 02:44 Big_Rob_48 wrote: so if u had zero history why did you call a 4 bet with 57o?

i saw raptor do something similar and thought it looked cute.

On November 13 2008 02:47 sniderstyle wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2008 02:44 Big_Rob_48 wrote: so if u had zero history why did you call a 4 bet with 57o? i saw raptor do something similar and thought it looked cute.

lol

well gl snider its too bad we never met when u lived 45 minutes away from me when I was in bellevue, wa : (

oh well, my brother still lives out there and i might make extended visits in teh future.

Feel free to hit me up on AIM whenever, i'm actually going to be on. It's so nice having my comfortable set up again. I can't tell you how nice it is to have a sweet comfortable chair, dual monitors, and a large desk space. Makes all the difference in the world to a grinder.

this is areally really bad flat call of a 4 bet... you are just playing way too fancy and trying to use 'gbucks' and 'position' to justify your spewy and bad call. sorry snider, just my two cents.