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Handnr: 574048
Submitted by : PplusAD

POKERSTARS GAME #22289165854: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/11/23 8:13:50 ET
Table 'Palach' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: MOHTEP ($16 in chips)
Seat 2: Punisherone ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 3: LordAD85 ($26 in chips)
Seat 4: gynni ($25.40 in chips)
Seat 5: GreenMasheen ($43.55 in chips)
Seat 6: SonataWolf ($25 in chips)
SonataWolf: posts small blind $0.10
MOHTEP: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to LordAD85 TsJs
Punisherone: calls $0.25
LordAD85 : calls $0.25
gynni: folds
GreenMasheen: raises $0.50 to $0.75
SonataWolf: folds
MOHTEP: folds
Punisherone: calls $0.50
LordAD85 : calls $0.50

Flop (Pot : $2.60)

   Td2c5s
Punisherone: bets $0.50
LordAD85 : calls $0.50
GreenMasheen: calls $0.50

Turn (Pot : $4.10)

   Td2c5sJc
Punisherone: bets $0.50
LordAD85 : raises $2.50 to $3
GreenMasheen: calls $3
Punisherone: calls $2.50

River (Pot : $13.10)

   Td2c5sJcAh
Punisherone: checks
LordAD85 : checks
GreenMasheen: bets $5
Punisherone: folds
LordAD85 said, "hm i guess u sucked out on river"
GreenMasheen said, "nah"
LordAD85 said, "or a set"
LordAD85 : calls $5

Showdown
GreenMasheen: shows AcJd (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
LordAD85 : mucks hand
GreenMasheen collected $22 from pot

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PplusAD   Germany. Nov 23 2008 08:20. Posts 7180

hm i really should have folded

>-<
i finally called after timbanking it down to 1 sec since i thought there is only 3 outs for him to suck out on river + less than half pot
which is very newb logic

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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 23/11/2008 08:22

Luckb0xx   Germany. Nov 23 2008 08:21. Posts 2069

not for those odds... srsly

take your beats like a man

pfffffff... 

SfydjkLm   Belarus. Nov 23 2008 08:21. Posts 3810

reraise flop?

*wink wink* 

PplusAD   Germany. Nov 23 2008 08:23. Posts 7180

hm i dont like reraiseing flop with midpair medium kicker to a minbet into 2 people.

I eitehr win a very small pot risking a lot or i lose a big pot being behind.
3 betting flops with a medium hand for information is usually a very bad play

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 23/11/2008 08:24

Murray   Finland. Nov 23 2008 08:37. Posts 623

horrible

._. 

PplusAD   Germany. Nov 23 2008 09:05. Posts 7180

Yeha :

raise PF , 3 bet flop . 3/4 pot turn -> shove any river
gg

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 23/11/2008 09:06

PplusAD   Germany. Nov 23 2008 09:17. Posts 7180

U could make an argument about preflop being horrible.
if i want to play JTs i shall raise it.

I could see your point.
Most of the time i do raise hands when i play them.
I am 26/21/3 atm for 6max so u see my limping range is only like maximum ~ 3%
however in situations where u have almost zero fold equity on flops i think that limping with hands that could make a lot of shit like 89s 9Ts JTs from early positions is okay.


flop -> 3 betting here is a very very bad idea !
Whoever things 3 betting this a good idea probably shall take a close look at the flop + action again.

he bets 50cent into 2 people on a very dry flop.
85% this means he has a good hand and wants to induce a reraise
10% means he is an idiot trying to value minbetbet/call hads like QT here
5% this means he is an idiot minbetting with air for no reason.

So if we 3 bet here with our weak made hand ->
85% we get either shoved on and must fold having invested some $
10% get called and are in a mess on most turns being in a big pot with a medium hand
5% we win a small pot investing some big $

So what i do on flop is -> take the cheap prize to hit one of my 6 outs. 2xT 4xJ

turn ->

we hit so we 3 bet ofc.
he calls.

River -> very bad card for us
A lot of his minbet/calling range on turn has hit the river.
AT AJ AX KQ etc

so plz explain why besides the preflop action this is horrible

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 23/11/2008 09:22

 

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