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sirracksalot   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:02. Posts 2299 | | |
sometimes i touch myself thinking about you |
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Syntax   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:03. Posts 4415 | | |
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sirracksalot   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:05. Posts 2299 | | |
hubert is looking for you on aim |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Dec 02 2008 19:06. Posts 4697 | | |
I 4bet pre 125% of the time |
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sirracksalot   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:06. Posts 2299 | | |
| On December 02 2008 18:03 Syntax wrote:
sexy time |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Dec 02 2008 19:06. Posts 4697 | | |
unless AmPHisbaenA is a 9/5 rock, in which case I fold pre |
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Syntax   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:09. Posts 4415 | | |
i have him at 13/11
dont know about him, but just know that tags with stats like those are capable of 3betting co open from btn a wider range than AK/AA/KK which is what you're saying right? Definitely add in JJ/QQ AK/AQ/AJ/JT/possibly some more sc / suited aces
so folding pf i think is a leak
But yeah if you have him at 9/5 i definitely fold pf as well.
also produca is 17/11 reg. so definitely capable of being an easy target for a 3bet from a TAG... like 13/11 |
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wut wut wut | Last edit: 02/12/2008 19:11 |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Dec 02 2008 19:12. Posts 4697 | | |
The reason I 4bet here is that because both their ranges are pretty damn wide if they defend somewhat decently, which means I can do it as a bluff as well. Also, cold calling a 3bet shows just as much strength if not more then 4betting, and also allows them to take a flop. |
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Syntax   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:14. Posts 4415 | | |
this is true, however, if you 4bet you're essentially folding out anything you beat and only getting action from hands that have you crushed or a flip (AK)
him and I have no history together, so unless he's completely crazy (which doesn't seem to be the case judging from what i've seen so far) he's not 5bet shoving AQ/JJ here nearly enough to 4bet.
I am sacrificing equity by calling out of position and letting them see a flop, but i have the chance to win more by outplaying them rather than when i 4bet and shut all doors to let the hand play itself, which is, they fold or they shove (and i have to always call - odds/range)
you gotta be confident in your post flop skills though. usually 4betting is good if you're bad postflop i guess. youre just not optimizing value...
i was like 80% sure i was good here :/ |
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wut wut wut | Last edit: 02/12/2008 19:24 |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Dec 02 2008 19:22. Posts 4697 | | |
Uh, I'm pretty confident in my postflop play. It's just that I don't see the neccesity of getting myself in tough spots oop when I can put them in tough spots instead pf. If you have no history yet, you have to start somewhere. |
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Syntax   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:24. Posts 4415 | | |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Dec 02 2008 19:26. Posts 4697 | | |
Don't understand the lol. When you flat the 3bet oop your range is so incredibly defined as JJ+ that he should be able to play perfectly against you. I mean, what other hands do you flat a 3bet with here oop? I think 4betting here actually increases your range in villain's eyes, or at least it should. |
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Trey   United States. Dec 02 2008 19:28. Posts 5616 | | |
I almost wanna fold pre. FR against a raise and reraise from a 17/11 and 13/11? |
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Syntax   United States. Dec 02 2008 22:54. Posts 4415 | | |
Good point, Artanis
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patmcgroin   Afghanistan. Dec 04 2008 01:43. Posts 830 | | |
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