dont think i beat anything here
only hands he could be doing this with is 88 or KK

oh man I absolutely do not fold river

i stoved it to try to prove you wrong, but it looks like you made a really good fold

oops i did it wrong, you're exactly 50/50 against KK,88,89s,87s

Damnit, FR is so weird...

i don't know what other hands would be doing this
the 2 doesn't change a thing for him

i call just to confirm my read.

88/KK+/AK/KQs? All are possible once you've checked back flop I think? Awesome fold if you had some read but I don't think I can find a fold here. It may be that 2 doesn't change anything for him but flip side is it shouldn't change anything for you in his mind either.....so his KQs etc still good?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

25 games 0.005 secs 5,000 games/sec

Board: 8d 8s Kh 2d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.000% 16.00% 00.00% 4 0.00 { KK+, 88, AKs, KQs, AKo }
Hand 1: 84.000% 84.00% 00.00% 21 0.00 { 2c2h }

His line just doesn't make sense. I think playing even KK or 88 (since that's what you put him on) here like this is very weird as well and I think that if you can include those in his range, he might get frisky with AA here all the same or maybe AKdd...

i think this is most likely KK

he's def not doing this with AA, he'd c-bet, and AK would c-bet as well.
i think playing 88 and KK here is the only thing possible

fullring is a sick lol

i dont think his line makes sense with any made hand, he checks flop, nobody bets, then he checkraises on a turncard that would be very unlikely to hit anyone. of course kk and 88 are possible, but they would be very badly played.

On December 03 2008 19:32 Liquid`Drone wrote: i dont think his line makes sense with any made hand, he checks flop, nobody bets, then he checkraises on a turncard that would be very unlikely to hit anyone. of course kk and 88 are possible, but they would be very badly played.

This is why I was thinking AA/AK were possible looking for a C/R on the flop, not getting one as checked back and C/R blank river? Doesn't make much sense either way.

such a trivial fold. its KK and 88 everytime.

On December 04 2008 06:00 handbanana21 wrote: such a trivial fold. its KK and 88 everytime.

my thoughts exactly, there's nothing to discuss here.