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Handnr: 608105
Submitted by : FeARFaCT

PokerStars Game #23894674925: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/01/14 12:50:16 ET
Table Panopaea 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pecX ($102.05 in chips)
Seat 2: johnny79 ($103.90 in chips)
Seat 3: InspectahAce ($120.65 in chips)
Seat 4: iD,Squall ($112.55 in chips)
Seat 5: kse2477 ($97.65 in chips)
Seat 6: workwork ($100 in chips)
Seat 7: S2Cues ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 8: MyOnlyStar ($102.15 in chips)
Seat 9: FeARFaCT ($195.75 in chips)
johnny79: posts small blind $0.50
InspectahAce: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to FeARFaCT 9c8c
iD,Squall: folds
kse2477: folds
workwork: folds
S2Cues: folds
MyOnlyStar: folds
FeARFaCT: raises $2 to $3
pecX: folds
johnny79: raises $7 to $10
InspectahAce: folds
FeARFaCT: calls $7

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $21.00)

   7d6hAs
johnny79: checks
FeARFaCT: bets $13
johnny79: calls $13

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $47.00)

   7d6hAs4d
johnny79: checks
FeARFaCT: bets $32
johnny79: calls $32

River (Pot : $111.00)

   7d6hAs4dKd
johnny79: checks
FeARFaCT: checks

Showdown
johnny79: shows Ad2s (a pair of Aces)
FeARFaCT: mucks hand
johnny79 collected $108 from pot

Summary
Total pot $111 | Rake $3
Board  7d6hAs4dKd
Seat 1: pecX (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: johnny79 (small blind) showed Ad2s and won ($108) with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: InspectahAce (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: iD,Squall folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: kse2477 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: workwork folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: S2Cues folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: MyOnlyStar folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: FeARFaCT mucked 9c8c

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FeARFaCT   United States. Jan 14 2009 13:05. Posts 496

Few questions with this hand. I'm obv a nit fr player, and one of my leaks is that I fold to 3bets way too often. I've noticed that a lot of the biggest winning FR players at my limit flat a lot of 3 bets as opposed to 4betting, so I am trying to do the same. First of all, this player is 3betting around 7%, is a bit wild, and is a losing reg. I obv flop a good draw here so I bet it, and figure I have good FE so I bet the turn. My question is this.. if this is the type of player that will call down very light on the turn with Ax, should I be also firing any river? Maybe I'm more so asking, if I bet this turn do I need to also bet the river regardless of what comes? My other question is.. if this is the type of player who will call any Ax on the turn, should I just check behind and go for a free card? Again, my experience with 3betting is fairly limited since I haven't played in forever and nobody used to ever 3bet 100nl or even 200nl FR. I appreciate any help I can get though, thanks.

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FeARFaCT   United States. Jan 14 2009 13:08. Posts 496

Also, I feel like a lot of 6max players may suggest to 4bet more. I do 4bet a fair amount, but I also like flatting in pos a lot too. I don't know what the ideal strategy is at higher FR games, but I know there are guys that have excellent win rates over 24boards, and they usually lean towards seeing a flop more than 4betting. But again, any help is appreciated.

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NeillyJQ   United States. Jan 14 2009 13:27. Posts 8947

flatting here is standard, 4bet shove vs someone that is capable of folding, if hes a stationary fish just check behind on river and muck

but in future, if someone is 3betting you with A2, 4b them back with a2c atleast 35% of the time to keep them in line vs you

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

NeillyJQ   United States. Jan 14 2009 13:28. Posts 8947


  On January 14 2009 12:27 NeillyJQ wrote:
flatting here is standard, 4bet shove vs someone that is capable of folding, if hes a stationary fish just check behind on river and muck

but in future, if someone is 3betting you with A2, 4b them back with a2c atleast 35% of the time to keep them in line vs you



ffs this!

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

FeARFaCT   United States. Jan 14 2009 13:38. Posts 496

My think is, if I 4bet 98c.. which I have done a few times.. I'm just dumping to a shove right? I feel like my 4bets have in the past only been successful 50% of the time in making a fold..which imo (could be wrong) makes it unprofitable to 4bet these hands a lot of the time. Some of these guys get something like AQ and are just allin.. which makes me feel like I should wait for stronger hands to 4bet. Of course this would make my 4betting range pretty face up.. but I also don't know if the consequences of that would be as profound at 100nl as opposed to 600nl. Preferably though, I'd prefer to get in the habit of making the strongest play, but at the same time.. I don't know if the strongest play at 600nl would do well at 100nl b/c a lot of guys are so nitty. Again though, any help is really appreciated, thanks.

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