i'm positive he only has good hands, is 4 betting really the best way to get max value here?

No way he has JJ, and i dont think he even has air here almost ever

so you think he only have hands that beat you and your talking about value?

well, hmm yeah i'm confused ... i think his range is KK AA AK and air, so what do i do about that?

so his range beats u, and u cant call for set value so fold.

you fold or you call and hit a set?

On February 18 2009 20:36 Big_Rob_48 wrote: well, hmm yeah i'm confused ... i think his range is KK AA AK and air, so what do i do about that?

ok but u said air almost never? i mean this is the crucial point.

he is playing 18/17 and i really dont think he will have air here often, i'm not sure if he is capable of it .... anyway i hope talentedtom doesnt see this

you'll get leveled if he do XD if you think his range crush ur QQ easy fold

one thing you might wanna take into your calculation is that you opened from utg and he raised you from MP, so his range is probably a bit higher.

EscapingR .... thats my whole point is that i'm utg and he is utg+1 so thats why this whole hand is here

if u think he has that range fold. i dont understand how u are considering something else when u put him on THAT range. like do u not understand numbers?

btw im not commenting on his range per se but if thats the range u think he has u dont beat it so what is there to think about.

-DooMeR