PokerStars Game #25357107155: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/02/25 21:01:48 ET
Table Eri 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: griffey423 ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 3: pcboi ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 4: pillagerseb ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: philcaALLins ($14.65 in chips)
Seat 6: hongzhong ($4.85 in chips)
Seat 7: Morris_9es ($4.30 in chips)
Seat 9: RSVTEC ($14.25 in chips)
RSVTEC: posts small blind $0.10
chrow: is sitting out
griffey423: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to griffey423
chrow leaves the table
pcboi: raises $0.75 to $1
pillagerseb: folds
philcaALLins: folds
hongzhong: folds
Morris_9es: folds
RSVTEC: folds
griffey423: raises $2 to $3
pcboi: raises $3.50 to $6.50
griffey423: raises $8.50 to $15
pcboi: raises $10.35 to $25.35 and is all-in
griffey423: calls $10.35 and is all-in
Showdown griffey423: shows (a full house, Queens full of Threes)
pcboi: mucks hand
griffey423 collected $48.30 from pot
pcboi is sitting out
pcboi leaves the table
Summary Total pot $50.80 | Rake $2.50
Board
Seat 2: griffey423 (big blind) showed and won ($48.30) with a full house, Queens full of Threes
Seat 3: pcboi mucked
Seat 4: pillagerseb folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: philcaALLins folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: hongzhong folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: Morris_9es (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: RSVTEC (small blind) folded before Flop
- I had 93 hands with this guy, and hes a 20/17. I dont know if I can get away from this hand .
FeARFaCT   United States. Mar 02 2009 17:02. Posts 496
93 hands isn't enough to not be able to get away from something. You need to break down his raising %'s more and see what his values are from each position. He might be 30% late and 4% early. Hover over his raise stat to see his raise from % stats. I know i've varied from 25/20 in one set of 100 hands to 15/10 in the next set.
The utg raise is strong usually, there's no shame in just flatting here. You have to also remember that he knows you know UTG raises are stronger, so that makes your reraise stronger too... possibily giving you less action from worse hands. Also need to raise to at least 3.50+ here. 4x to 14x.
Regardless of everything, 20/17 also says nothing about his 3bet/4bet. He basically mini 4bet you here from utg which is almost always a big hand. Someone playing 20/17 with junk would just call you here in pos. Keep things like that in mind too. When I play 25/20 at my games, it doesn't mean I'm stacking off with 66 from utg.