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Handnr: 650001
Submitted by : AndrewSong

Full Tilt Poker Game #11052840684: Table Padre Field - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:58:03 ET - 2009/03/09
Seat 1: smoothie86 ($74)
Seat 2: FavreNYJ4 ($350.15)
Seat 3: yogman111 ($68)
Seat 4: tss22 ($74)
Seat 5: csibirka23 ($410.80)
Seat 6: flopmynuts33 ($400)
Seat 7: Andrew Song ($815)
Seat 8: tightplay123 ($224)
Seat 9: CEKATOP ($392)
FavreNYJ4 posts the small blind of $2
yogman111 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1

Holecards
Dealt to Andrew SongKcKd
tss22 calls $4
csibirka23 has 15 seconds left to act
csibirka23 folds
flopmynuts33 has 15 seconds left to act
flopmynuts33 raises to $13
Andrew Song raises to $46
tightplay123 folds
CEKATOP calls $46
smoothie86 folds
FavreNYJ4 folds
yogman111 folds
tss22 folds
flopmynuts33 folds

Flop (Pot : $115.00)

   8hJh4s
Andrew Song bets $64
CEKATOP raises to $140
Andrew Song has 15 seconds left to act
Andrew Song has requested TIME

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Jamie217   Canada. Mar 09 2009 18:06. Posts 4351

reg? fish? random nit?

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AndrewSong    United States. Mar 09 2009 18:08. Posts 2355

6max regular


Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:09. Posts 5453

i would fold here


handbanana21   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:10. Posts 3037

looks like AA alot here


CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:11. Posts 11385

no fucking way, why are we folding an overpair in a 3b pot???

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Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:11. Posts 5453


  On March 09 2009 17:11 CrownRoyal wrote:
no fucking way, why are we folding an overpair in a 3b pot???



look at the preflop action dude, plus its full ring.


CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:11. Posts 11385

the only option is all-in

how can you even contemplate folding wtf?

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CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:13. Posts 11385

he can have akhh, qq, ak, a random bluff (i bluff in this spot with this line to rep aa, i assume other good players do too)

way more realistic holdings than we beat than we dont

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Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:17. Posts 5453

but you play 6max...


CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:19. Posts 11385

if this is a good spot to fold kk i think you're going to get run over playing vs a reg

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handbanana21   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:19. Posts 3037

crown you dont understand how this game runs. This is not a standard all in if we know our opponents tendancies.


Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:22. Posts 5453

if the villain knew there's a chance you could have AA since you 3bet pre, why would he play so aggro?
hes gunna show up with AA here way too often, if not AA, then JJ


CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:25. Posts 11385

if its that transparent than why are we not c/f the flop?

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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Mar 09 2009 18:38. Posts 10896

open fold flop he have aa he cold called a 3bet!!!


Fox   . Mar 09 2009 18:43. Posts 3110

Crown because the reg is calling with QQ, AJ, Hearts, tons of stuff that we beat. Once he raises its' time to pitch it.

I actually put him on JJ to be honest. AA i guess is there as well but to me JJ or even 88 more likely.

So you can't just check fold the flop Crown because villian can call with a range of hands. I mean it's x11 blinds and he's in position if i had J10s i'd probably call if i felt that it was possible to get 1 more caller.

The only hand that is raising like this that we aren't being dominated by is 9h10h.


Fox   . Mar 09 2009 18:45. Posts 3110

and no way he raies with QQ here ever. AhKh possibly but he should know any type of shove he's behind most of the time. I think a lot of people are gonna call with AhKh as well =[


Fox   . Mar 09 2009 18:50. Posts 3110

also this is just assuming reg is a standard FR nit reg.


AndrewSong    United States. Mar 09 2009 18:57. Posts 2355


  On March 09 2009 17:19 CrownRoyal wrote:
if this is a good spot to fold kk i think you're going to get run over playing vs a reg



I think this is one of the better spots to pitch KK for 100bb.
Only hand i beat in his pf range is QQ. I'm not even sure if he'd play AKs with utg / my 3bet involved. And if he does have AKs i think he's more inclined to shove/call the flop then mini raise. If he had QQ it doesn't make sense for him to be min-raising and turning his hand to a bluff when he knows he won't beat anything if he gets action. (plus he doesn't know that i'm capable of folding KK here)

I think spots like this is what makes your winrate higher then ur avg regulars. If u think this is a standard spot to ship it in its a leak imo.


 

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