Full Tilt Poker Game #11052840684: Table Padre Field - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:58:03 ET - 2009/03/09
Seat 1: smoothie86 ($74)
Seat 2: FavreNYJ4 ($350.15)
Seat 3: yogman111 ($68)
Seat 4: tss22 ($74)
Seat 5: csibirka23 ($410.80)
Seat 6: flopmynuts33 ($400)
Seat 7: Andrew Song ($815)
Seat 8: tightplay123 ($224)
Seat 9: CEKATOP ($392)
FavreNYJ4 posts the small blind of $2
yogman111 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
Holecards
Dealt to Andrew Song
tss22 calls $4
csibirka23 has 15 seconds left to act
csibirka23 folds
flopmynuts33 has 15 seconds left to act
flopmynuts33 raises to $13
Andrew Song raises to $46
tightplay123 folds
CEKATOP calls $46
smoothie86 folds
FavreNYJ4 folds
yogman111 folds
tss22 folds
flopmynuts33 folds
Flop (Pot : $115.00)
Andrew Song bets $64
CEKATOP raises to $140
Andrew Song has 15 seconds left to act
Andrew Song has requested TIME
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Jamie217   Canada. Mar 09 2009 18:06. Posts 4351 | | |
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AndrewSong   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:08. Posts 2355 | | |
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Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:09. Posts 5453 | | |
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handbanana21   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:10. Posts 3037 | | |
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CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:11. Posts 11385 | | |
no fucking way, why are we folding an overpair in a 3b pot??? |
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Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:11. Posts 5453 | | |
| On March 09 2009 17:11 CrownRoyal wrote:
no fucking way, why are we folding an overpair in a 3b pot??? |
look at the preflop action dude, plus its full ring. |
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CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:11. Posts 11385 | | |
the only option is all-in
how can you even contemplate folding wtf? |
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CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:13. Posts 11385 | | |
he can have akhh, qq, ak, a random bluff (i bluff in this spot with this line to rep aa, i assume other good players do too)
way more realistic holdings than we beat than we dont |
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Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:17. Posts 5453 | | |
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CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:19. Posts 11385 | | |
if this is a good spot to fold kk i think you're going to get run over playing vs a reg |
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handbanana21   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:19. Posts 3037 | | |
crown you dont understand how this game runs. This is not a standard all in if we know our opponents tendancies. |
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Exhilarate   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:22. Posts 5453 | | |
if the villain knew there's a chance you could have AA since you 3bet pre, why would he play so aggro?
hes gunna show up with AA here way too often, if not AA, then JJ
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CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:25. Posts 11385 | | |
if its that transparent than why are we not c/f the flop? |
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open fold flop he have aa he cold called a 3bet!!!
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Fox   . Mar 09 2009 18:43. Posts 3110 | | |
Crown because the reg is calling with QQ, AJ, Hearts, tons of stuff that we beat. Once he raises its' time to pitch it.
I actually put him on JJ to be honest. AA i guess is there as well but to me JJ or even 88 more likely.
So you can't just check fold the flop Crown because villian can call with a range of hands. I mean it's x11 blinds and he's in position if i had J10s i'd probably call if i felt that it was possible to get 1 more caller.
The only hand that is raising like this that we aren't being dominated by is 9h10h. |
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Fox   . Mar 09 2009 18:45. Posts 3110 | | |
and no way he raies with QQ here ever. AhKh possibly but he should know any type of shove he's behind most of the time. I think a lot of people are gonna call with AhKh as well =[ |
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Fox   . Mar 09 2009 18:50. Posts 3110 | | |
also this is just assuming reg is a standard FR nit reg. |
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AndrewSong   United States. Mar 09 2009 18:57. Posts 2355 | | |
| On March 09 2009 17:19 CrownRoyal wrote:
if this is a good spot to fold kk i think you're going to get run over playing vs a reg |
I think this is one of the better spots to pitch KK for 100bb.
Only hand i beat in his pf range is QQ. I'm not even sure if he'd play AKs with utg / my 3bet involved. And if he does have AKs i think he's more inclined to shove/call the flop then mini raise. If he had QQ it doesn't make sense for him to be min-raising and turning his hand to a bluff when he knows he won't beat anything if he gets action. (plus he doesn't know that i'm capable of folding KK here)
I think spots like this is what makes your winrate higher then ur avg regulars. If u think this is a standard spot to ship it in its a leak imo. |
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