I quit FR.

lol tilt-call?

u should consider c/rai flop and bomb turn puts u alot closer to, or actually allin on turn and its basically repping equally strong holdings here

The guy was a complete idiot, and I felt like I have the 33% chance he doesnt have the flush or better hand.

He's never gonna shove AK AQ here, and rarely a low club. He's got Qc, Jc, 4c3c or air. Good call.

On March 26 2009 13:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's never gonna shove AK AQ here, and rarely a low club. He's got Qc, Jc, 4c3c or air. Good call.

i completely bow down to art, but i need to emphasize that you should make sure you're trying your best to think things through this sort of way and not just say to yourself "well fuckit i'm probably okay here" sort of thing. i think artanis is thinking on like many levels higher than us .. not that this is so complicated, but. i think im sort of being coherent here? :O

This is why I will no longer play FR very seriously. I don't know why I was so scared of the transition.

Its so easy to get reads on loose people and to stack them once you lose a pot or two to them

No I was 50% sure he can't have it and thats all I need. This sort of bluff I saw many many times, always with the flush on the board.

The dude was a 50/40 tard bluffbox.

I made this completely rationaly and would call him over and over. If O dont somebody else will stack him. And if he has it in those 50% of times? Just more money I can take ;o

You also need to consider that the Kc is the best club that can come off since if he's chasing a fd on the flop it's likely that it's with the Kc. Given that the Kc hit on the river it means he couldn't have the nut fd, thus making it much less likely for him to have it. The only flushes that should be in his range here that he might shove are AxQc and AxJc, I'd expect 4c3c to raise earlier but it's possible he might take this line with it.

No he couldnt have 4c3c with high probability, I never ever saw him raising low connectors. K9o is much more likely that 89s that he will raise ;o


I obviously can't analyse the hand like artanis at least for next 20years, but this was no rocket science. I repeat that I saw myself with more than those 38% I Needed for call, because of this opponnent and the way he played before.

no, but its seriously super freaking different if say, the ten of clubs hits the river. seriously, beware of oversimplifying things :O