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Handnr: 66761
Submitted by : Yugless

Full Tilt Poker Game #941888450: Table Wispy Sage - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:38:58 ET - 2006/08/27
geezee213: nh
Seat 1: dragontatz7 ($37)
Seat 2: geezee213 ($38.35)
Seat 3: biggs141 ($97.40)
Seat 4: KBscholar ($106.30)
Seat 5: tbates32816 ($27.55)
Seat 6: Developer ($102.75)
Seat 7: Born2DonkBaby ($101.90)
Seat 8: kamakaze1616 ($51.65)
Seat 9: jamiz27 ($61.50)
dragontatz7 posts the small blind of $0.50
geezee213 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #9

Holecards
Dealt to Born2DonkBaby JsQs
biggs141 raises to $2
KBscholar folds
tbates32816 folds
Developer calls $2
Born2DonkBaby calls $2
kamakaze1616 raises to $8
jamiz27 folds
dragontatz7 folds
geezee213 calls $7
biggs141 calls $6
Developer calls $6
Born2DonkBaby calls $6

Flop (Pot : $40.5)

   5cTs4s
geezee213 checks
biggs141 checks
Developer checks
Born2DonkBaby checks
kamakaze1616 bets $23
geezee213 folds
biggs141 folds
Developer raises to $46

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Yugless    United States. Aug 27 2006 18:46. Posts 7174

call?

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Baal - look is talking hah.  

nicksson   Sweden. Aug 27 2006 18:50. Posts 4662

Id call


Yugless    United States. Aug 27 2006 18:56. Posts 7174

I did too, lost my stack haha. I think it was the right call though

Baal - look is talking hah.  

Narious   Canada. Aug 27 2006 18:56. Posts 4800

I might push all in and represent a set.


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 27 2006 18:58. Posts 34262

wtf NO call... its 50% of your stack ffs, you cant flat call here, you either push or fold.

I assume everyone else folded, so Kamikaze is the PF raiser, if someone raises and you go over the top he will fold 99% of the time (unless he sux) and you will be facing someone with probably a set or a very strong hand with a NAKED non-nut flush darw, its not even a combo, and you might run into the nut draw plus its only 2 way (3 way gives you better odds) since the pf raiser will fold.

FOLD imo.

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Moloch   United States. Aug 27 2006 19:08. Posts 6144

easy fold

baal is weaktight though

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Yugless    United States. Aug 27 2006 19:09. Posts 7174

the 2nd guy check raised for half of his chips, so i had zero fold equity. I wanted to hopefully see the next two cards without commiting my whole stack, didn't happen though. The pot odds were just too good to pass up.

Baal - look is talking hah.  

aseq   Netherlands. Aug 27 2006 19:22. Posts 894

3-way with a fd is ok nearly all the time, the fd gives you 35%, there might be a higher flush, but that cancels out with chances of hitting 2pair or trips.

So if you feel the other guy will call here too, calling is ok (which he probably will, he's pf raiser and it's a minraise). I feel that pushing (&isolating) makes you a dog tho, am i wrong?


Yugless    United States. Aug 27 2006 19:24. Posts 7174

the pre flop raiser had over half of his chips in already, so he wasn't folding

Baal - look is talking hah.  

Narious   Canada. Aug 27 2006 19:25. Posts 4800


  On August 27 2006 18:22 aseq wrote:
3-way with a fd is ok nearly all the time, the fd gives you 35%, there might be a higher flush, but that cancels out with chances of hitting 2pair or trips.

So if you feel the other guy will call here too, calling is ok (which he probably will, he's pf raiser and it's a minraise). I feel that pushing (&isolating) makes you a dog tho, am i wrong?



*shrug* if you call this you have to call all in on the turn. If you push all in you do still have some fold equity. Not a lot, but I think calling is the worst option.


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 27 2006 19:33. Posts 34262

anyone who thinks flat calling here is an option simply doesnt not understand poker.

You are oop, you wont get a free card he is pushing turn and now what, you will obv call and you missed the Fold Equity + imagine of pushing flop, also someone might get away if the turn is a spade

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Yugless    United States. Aug 27 2006 19:47. Posts 7174


  On August 27 2006 18:33 Baal wrote:
anyone who thinks flat calling here is an option simply doesnt not understand poker.

You are oop, you wont get a free card he is pushing turn and now what, you will obv call and you missed the Fold Equity + imagine of pushing flop, also someone might get away if the turn is a spade




Fair enough. There was no fold equity though. The pre flop raiser had over $30 in and only had $20 left, and obviously had a good hand, so he wasnt going anywhere. The other guy check raised the flop after a pre flop re raise, so he must have had a huge hand, he wasn't going anywhere. I don't want the first guy to fold anyway, assuming the 2nd guy won't fold. The part about him getting away if a spade hits does make sense though.

Baal - look is talking hah.  

 

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