Back Submit a hand
Handnr: 676240 Submitted by : Fayth
***** Hand History for Game 8001724835 *****
$2,000 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, April 20, 19:17:39 EDT 2009
Table Deep Stack #1418423 No DP Real Money
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 3: Hero $2,010 USD
Seat 4: ladyfart $2,000 USD
Seat 2: vallyrazye $1,128.50 USD
Hero posts small blind [$10 USD].
ladyfart posts big blind [$20 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero 
vallyrazye raises [$60 USD]
Hero raises [$190 USD]
ladyfart folds
vallyrazye calls [$140 USD]
Flop (Pot : $410.00)
  Hero bets [$209.50 USD]
vallyrazye is all-In [$928.50 USD]
Hero calls [$719 USD]
Turn (Pot : $619.50)
  
River (Pot : $619.50)
    Hero shows  two pairs, Queens and Jacks with Ace kicker.
vallyrazye doesn't show  two pairs, Queens and Jacks .
Hero wins $2,276 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Jacks with Ace kicker.
 |
Comments |
 |
1
 |
collegesucks   United States. Apr 20 2009 19:26. Posts 5780 | | |
i normally bet pot/snapcall flops like this vs shortstackers like that. hows this line particularly better? |
|
| 1
 |
Patrocle   France. Apr 20 2009 19:26. Posts 623 | | |
I mean, being non-result oriented, is it really a good call ?
(didn't make the maths here, it's why I ask) |
|
An apple a day keeps the doctor away | |
|
| 1
 |
Balzamon   Sweden. Apr 20 2009 19:28. Posts 2868 | | |
| On April 20 2009 18:26 collegesucks wrote:
i normally bet pot/snapcall flops like this vs shortstackers like that. hows this line particularly better? |
who bluff vs a potsizebet? |
|
| 1
 |
Sennpu   Canada. Apr 20 2009 19:30. Posts 1960 | | |
he has a lot invested ;o the guy(50bb) prolly has draw or Qx and maybe even Jx =] so he has gutshot + at least 1 overcard ._ . |
|
then she ask me my qualities n bad qualities. so i tell her truth and she kinda laugh at me lol. then i ask her for hers and she gtg. i think it going ok. -Floofy | Last edit: 20/04/2009 19:31 |
|
| 1
 |
Patrocle   France. Apr 20 2009 19:30. Posts 623 | | |
| On April 20 2009 18:26 collegesucks wrote:
i normally bet pot/snapcall flops like this vs shortstackers like that. hows this line particularly better? |
He is more inclined to bluff a half-pot, plus when people usually put some fancy
bet size, they do want people to fold. So, imo, you'll induce more raise bluff with
this betsize than with a pot, that will probably polarize his range of raise to stronger
draws/made hands rather than pure bluff. I don't play that high, so can't really comment
for this play, but that sounds ok.
What I'm asking is: what is the proportion of made hands/draws/bluffs he has so that
we have enough equity with the call.
Btw, if I read the HH well vilain is 50bb deep, which is *NOT* shortstack. |
|
An apple a day keeps the doctor away | |
|
| 1
 |
Sennpu   Canada. Apr 20 2009 19:31. Posts 1960 | | |
|
then she ask me my qualities n bad qualities. so i tell her truth and she kinda laugh at me lol. then i ask her for hers and she gtg. i think it going ok. -Floofy | |
|
| 1
 |
Svenman87   United States. Apr 20 2009 19:32. Posts 4636 | | |
|
| 1
 |
RainyDay   Korea (South). Apr 20 2009 19:33. Posts 484 | | |
If 50bb is shortstack I'm guessing 100bb is half stack and 200bb is full stack? |
|
|
| 1
 |
Sennpu   Canada. Apr 20 2009 19:35. Posts 1960 | | |
| On April 20 2009 18:33 RainyDay wrote:
If 50bb is shortstack I'm guessing 100bb is half stack and 200bb is full stack? |
Sup genius |
|
then she ask me my qualities n bad qualities. so i tell her truth and she kinda laugh at me lol. then i ask her for hers and she gtg. i think it going ok. -Floofy | |
|
| 1
 |
Fayth   Canada. Apr 20 2009 19:36. Posts 10085 | | |
50bb would be medium stack, either way I'm calling thinking I'm good a decent amount of the time, and if not, I most likely have several outs, more than a gutshot |
|
Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy | |
|
| 1
 |
collegesucks   United States. Apr 20 2009 19:36. Posts 5780 | | |
yeah you're deep only when you have at least 400bb effective obv |
|
| 1
 |
RainyDay   Korea (South). Apr 20 2009 19:36. Posts 484 | | |
I'm korean but I'm not chris lee |
|
|
| 1
 |
Patrocle   France. Apr 20 2009 19:55. Posts 623 | | |
| On April 20 2009 18:36 Fayth wrote:
50bb would be medium stack, either way I'm calling thinking I'm good a decent amount of the time, and if not, I most likely have several outs, more than a gutshot |
just check the calculation, on this flop he has approximately 6% 2p+,20% OESD,35%-ish FD and the rest is pair/air, so
it's a no-brainer, this is a very +ev call, even for 150bb deep actually !
Do you agree with my logic for your bet-size ?
Edit: forget to mention we have like 40-45% against his made-hands
range, making it a no-brainer. |
|
An apple a day keeps the doctor away | Last edit: 20/04/2009 20:00 |
|
| 1 | |
| On April 20 2009 18:30 Patrocle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 18:26 collegesucks wrote:
i normally bet pot/snapcall flops like this vs shortstackers like that. hows this line particularly better? |
He is more inclined to bluff a half-pot, plus when people usually put some fancy
bet size, they do want people to fold. So, imo, you'll induce more raise bluff with
this betsize than with a pot, that will probably polarize his range of raise to stronger
draws/made hands rather than pure bluff. I don't play that high, so can't really comment
for this play, but that sounds ok.
What I'm asking is: what is the proportion of made hands/draws/bluffs he has so that
we have enough equity with the call.
Btw, if I read the HH well vilain is 50bb deep, which is *NOT* shortstack.
|
This is a nl2k table |
|
| |
 |
All hands submitted by Fayth: |
 |
|