sigh, one of the reasons why i liked ps so much, was b/c people didnt play with junk usually :[

No offense, but it's because of people like you (with that retarded turn play) that I play suited low cards.

Dont call off your stack with top pair 2nd kicker, unless you have a solid read.

He wasn't even the preflop raiser...

woah dude

slow down on the turn, he bet 54 into a pot of like 30

although it's pretty hard to get away from AQ there

edit: oops i thought you were the preflop raiser. yeah i wouldn't think AQ would be good there.

lumberjack,
i will always see these flops with "junk" hands for $6 or $8 if i know i can get my opponent's entire stack when i hit

thought his overbet, meant he didnt want to get called, and protect his A with medium kicker. Besides, who calls preflop 4xBB raise with a 3 in their hand? So, my thoughts were, A medium kicker or PP and tried to bluff off the A with medium kicker.

edit, i guess regardless, i cant call or bet without the trips +

from looking at the hand, i put him on A7 or a 3. people usually don't overbet that much just to bluff, especially at these limits. A7 was more likely, but that had you beat too.

uh, you played this hand terribly. with a paired board, players are very careful and rarely call/bet unless they have a piece of it. when he called your 2$ you should have slowed down and either put him on an ace or, if worse, a 3.

then theres your play on the turn ... that turn overbet is just the most donkey/turkey/fish (insert random animal here) play ive ever seen. you have to ask urself if he called on the flop, am i going to get him to fold when that blank hit? sure you can continue to value bet if u are confident he doesnt have AK/A7/x3, but that overbet achieves nothing and you are pretty much throwing your money away.

ps. raise the flop for more information. i dont see any point of the cold call of a minbet there. you MUST raise here.

On November 27 2005 23:35 tontonba wrote: but that overbet achieves nothing and you are pretty much throwing your money away.

no he wasn't the one who bet; he pushed after the other guy overbet

some good advice, thx guys, though some can be a bit harsh?

i'd probably just check/call to the river.

On November 27 2005 23:58 Wreckognize wrote: i'd probably just check/call to the river.

you can't
the turn is a call for all your money

Are you starting at $200 NL or did you work up a bankroll for it?

You played this hand absolutely horribly....

You flat called a 2 dollar bet on the flop, basically inviting him to boat up against you if he has an under pair, split the pot w/ you if he has a weaker ace, flush up if he has clubs, etc....

Re-raise flop about 6-8, gauge his reaction. After that, use your reads.

edit: tontonba covered it all!

thx

you probably had no read on him, ill assume no read

call preflop is fine. may want to reraise sometimes with position shorthanded, but calling is a good play.

flop, make it 16. if he calls, be very wary of a 3. his complete underbet on the flop is a tell, either a weak ace or a 3. if he calls, slow down or shutdown.