PokerStars Game #28743053192: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2009/05/29 3:07:22 ET
Table Irmgard 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: r090676 ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: the_luggster ($50 in chips)
Seat 4: vandermast17 ($54.90 in chips)
Seat 5: SmallFRYbigF ($83.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Ramses27 ($92.10 in chips)
Seat 7: PinkFroyd ($53.40 in chips)
Seat 8: BalloonFight ($50 in chips)
Seat 9: YoullCallMe ($53.60 in chips)
Ramses27: posts small blind $0.25
PinkFroyd: posts big blind $0.50
Evangeleon: sits out
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to BalloonFight 
BalloonFight: raises $1.50 to $2
YoullCallMe: folds
r090676: folds
the_luggster: folds
vandermast17: raises $3 to $5
SmallFRYbigF: folds
Ramses27: folds
PinkFroyd: folds
BalloonFight: calls $3
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $10.75)
BalloonFight: checks
vandermast17: bets $49.90 and is all-in
BalloonFight: calls $45 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($4.90) returned to vandermast17
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $100.75)
River (Pot : $100.75)
Showdown
BalloonFight: shows (three of a kind, Sixes)
vandermast17: shows 
(three of a kind, Jacks)
vandermast17 collected $97.75 from pot
Summary
Total pot $100.75 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: r090676 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: the_luggster folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: vandermast17 showed and won ($97.75) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 5: SmallFRYbigF (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Ramses27 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: PinkFroyd (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: BalloonFight showed and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 9: YoullCallMe folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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dryath Australia. May 29 2009 03:17. Posts 1317 | | | |
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his 3bet = too small, if he goes to 6 i fold, 5 = way too little imo |
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dryath Australia. May 29 2009 03:24. Posts 1317 | | |
it is still not profitable for u to set mine here, ur still putting in 1/10th of ur stack to hit a set like <12% of the time, and ur just gonna be check/folding 90% flops, and u can't really float this oop even when u get a 2 2 2 board imo. so this is just burning money really |
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i dunno... against certain villains their preflop minreraising range is so transparently the premiums that you would always want to call of the extra $3 (not 1/10th of your stack, mind you... the $2 raise earlier is a sunk cost), just to get paid off on your sets nearly every time. |
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lazymej Canada. May 29 2009 03:55. Posts 2897 | | |
You both make good points.
dyath is right and is the right approach vs lighter 3 bettors.
collegesucksis also right and if the villain has a really tight 3 betting range then I don't mind calling here because you have massive implied odds and your hand is super easy to play post flop. |
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Thanks for the replies guys. First time I've seen him 3bet but it wasnt in that many hands. If he 3bets light its a pretty obv fold but I was leaning towards him having a decent hand which ultimately factored into me calling. Glad to see that I was kinda correct in one aspect but probably wrong vs other villains. |
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you see these players who play like a 45/2 game and they min3bet you... i think it's profitable to just call them with a ridiculously wide proportion of your opening range in order to flop 2p or better and stack em |
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| | On May 29 2009 03:04 collegesucks wrote:
you see these players who play like a 45/2 game and they min3bet you... i think it's profitable to just call them with a ridiculously wide proportion of your opening range in order to flop 2p or better and stack em |
Agreed fully |
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i dunno though honestly it seems small when i eyeball it, but in nl200 this would be like uhh, a $20 preflop call, and that seems enormous, the type of calls i am making typically when idiots min3bet me pre are like when i iso them 2-->8-->14, if they go to 20 its much harder for me to call without a damn good reason. so im gonna backup dryath here :O
but its really super gay that he 2 outed you |
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hmm yeah i see your point. 6bb seems like a lot to call and you probably would not call a 6bb open with 22. but then again if you were certain his range was like JJ+/AK (as it becomes clear with certain fish when they 3bet you like this), it should be +ev to call 6bbs to win ~100bbs???
i mean even if you factor in losing with your sets, you're still getting 16 to 1 odds to flop and win. it's gotta have at least a slight positive expected value, which makes it better than folding. |
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| | On May 29 2009 02:17 dryath wrote:
fold pre |
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Fraser Canada. May 29 2009 23:14. Posts 4605 | | |
Guys the villain 3bet an utg raiser. Hes almost always super strong, implied odds are huge, calling pre is std. |
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| | On May 29 2009 02:17 dryath wrote:
fold pre |
rofl the guy open shove on 965 flop and you want to fold 66 pre to such a small reriase?
lawl?
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