o that is so cool that i was good there

u forgot to valuebet the river

I thought u were supposed to get it all-in when u flopped this good in a 3bet pot.

On June 08 2009 06:09 barbieman wrote: I thought u were supposed to get it all-in when u flopped this good in a 3bet pot.

ya...but i'm on tilt and not playing well..so i didn't

uberpwnage314 calls $15

i hate
actually i pretty much hate every street

huh? Preflop is perfectly fine, flop is fine, turn is bleh

i don't mind pre, flop to me is meh between raise and call...turn ehhhh call getting good odds on a call, don't know bout raise...but prob my standard is raise flop.

On June 08 2009 06:18 SakiSaki wrote: huh? Preflop is perfectly fine, flop is fine, turn is bleh

with a hand like JTs i don't rly like to call 15 more vs a SB v CO 3bet. Flop you can call yeah, but the point of calling JTs pre is because you think he's bluffing a ton no? It's not to likely we call IP because we wanna flop a monster vs hands that have us crushed right? In that scenario i raise flop (expecting a fold a ton) and calling a shove. <- hate to call it off but we are getting odds and basicly because we think he's bluffing we expect a ton of fold equity and thus, profit.

On June 08 2009 06:28 gororokgororok wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2009 06:18 SakiSaki wrote: huh? Preflop is perfectly fine, flop is fine, turn is bleh with a hand like JTs i don't rly like to call 15 more vs a SB v CO 3bet. Flop you can call yeah, but the point of calling JTs pre is because you think he's bluffing a ton no? It's not to likely we call IP because we wanna flop a monster vs hands that have us crushed right? In that scenario i raise flop (expecting a fold a ton) and calling a shove. <- hate to call it off but we are getting odds and basicly because we think he's bluffing we expect a ton of fold equity and thus, profit.

Why not call? villian is raising a wide range and we have position. Our goal is obv not to outflop him but to own him. This kind of flop should hit our range pretty well if we have no 4-betting history with villian, its also a flop that I personally dont raise with hands like KJ/AA so raising is weird in terms of balance, its also a board that villian is pretty unlikely to double barrel a ton with a wide range as he shouldnt really expect us to fold a pair at this point.(obv this didnt hold true against this perticular player but w/e) So if villian is unknown I think we can comfortably fold the turn the times he bets, but I do believe villian will check here sooo much and we can either bet turn and take it down or check and bet/raise river. whichever fits better with our range in this spot.