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Handnr: 725983
Submitted by : rednalluk
Full Tilt Poker Game #13810843329: Table Cherokee (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:59:49 ET - 2009/08/04
Seat 1: AllAVice ($100)
Seat 2: Hero ($133.60)
Seat 3: TFH1977 ($92.90)
Seat 4: last2act ($100)
Seat 5: chim17 ($118.05)
Seat 6: MayZerG ($101.50)
TFH1977 posts the small blind of $0.50
last2act posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 
chim17 folds
MayZerG folds
AllAVice folds
Hero raises to $3
TFH1977 calls $2.50
last2act folds
last2act adds $1
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $7.00)
  
TFH1977 checks
Hero bets $5
TFH1977 raises to $10
Hero calls $5
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $27.00)
TFH1977 bets $5
Hero raises to $15
TFH1977 calls $10
River (Pot : $57.00)
TFH1977 checks
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero bets $42
TFH1977 calls $42
Showdown
Hero shows a pair of Threes
TFH1977 shows  a pair of Tens
TFH1977 wins the pot ($138) with a pair of Tens
Hero adds $36.40
Summary
Total pot $141 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: AllAVice didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Hero (button) showed and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 3: TFH1977 (small blind) showed and won ($138) with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: last2act (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: chim17 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: MayZerG didn't bet (folded)
Comments on betsize on turn+river
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both streets are pretty bad.
turn is like a "for value"-raise. you cant fold out anything, and that turn was really bad for you. I just give up and fold there. If you absolutely want to raise (and its a bluff, do it to 35 or something).
river looks like a value bet, but you dont rep much/nothing (not a flush or a straight, its almost as if you rep a naked K). and this guy doesnt seem to fold much... I guess I would look you up with Tx+ too or something pretty often.. |
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rednalluk Sweden. Aug 09 2009 05:02. Posts 626 | | |
This is usually the spot when I think I can get him to fold JT, but maybe you're right and its just plain stupid. I wasnt sure that villain didnt fold much (I actually thought he could get away from this hand pretty easy). I dont get why I cant rep a flush, but I do agree that he shouldnt be worried about a straight. Also, is riverK one of those cards where I'll bluff too much which he knows, and also a card that might make me check back alot of tens.
But if I want to bluff, should I make my betsize bigger on the turn? He isnt repping alot at all, so is it possible to brute force him out of the pot with a 53+ bet on the river? Or is this just a big nono to bluff at all? |
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I think its a big nono to bluff in this pot. why should you? he has something and you dont, you cant improve and he can. the pot is small and you dont know much about him. Fold turn and go on to the next pot.
If you must bluff, why dont do it on the turn? If you raise big here you can rep a very strong hand (flush, straight, perhaps T7, 77 etc) and not at all many bluffs. As you say, he isnt repping much and probably will fold turn. But tell me how many flushes you minR turn (and very small compared to the pot)? I think you raise much bigger with every hand you have that is good. and then you bet like 3/4 of the pot (river) when a scarecard comes that miss you alot. A bigger river bet wont matter, and if you do want to invest almost 70$ in this pot to make him fold, take as much FE you can and do it on the turn. It will work much better. On the river your hand does not make sence and that makes people call more often. |
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