Submitted by : pinbaLL

***** Hand History for Game 3434426137 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 25, 13:03:39 EDT 2006
Table Table 68854 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: xConstantine ( $218.35 )
Seat 2: inetdirect ( $47.20 )
Seat 3: HorasTrumble ( $74.10 )
Seat 6: fisherman91 ( $33.17 )
Seat 7: Butch_rules ( $127.80 )
Seat 8: Nayme ( $121.10 )
Seat 10: ESeaYour ( $101.85 )
Seat 4: darknesstwin ( $98.35 )
Seat 9: oracle01 ( $30 )
Seat 5: OGFORLIFE ( $100 )
oracle01 posts small blind [$0.50].
ESeaYour posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ESeaYour [ ]
>You have options at Table 66063 Table!.
xConstantine calls [$1].
inetdirect calls [$1].
HorasTrumble folds.
darknesstwin folds.
OGFORLIFE folds.
>You have options at Table 65809 Table!.
>You have options at Table 65195 Table!.
fisherman91 calls [$1].
Butch_rules folds.
Nayme folds.
oracle01 folds.
>You have options at Table 69260 Table!.
ESeaYour checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [,, ]
ESeaYour bets [$3].
>You have options at Table 65544 Table!.
>You have options at Table 65195 Table!.
xConstantine raises [$12].
inetdirect folds.
fisherman91 folds.
ESeaYour is all-In [$97.85]
xConstantine calls [$88.85].
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
>You have options at Table 73590 Table!.
>You have options at Table 72246 Table!.
xConstantine shows [, ] a flush, ace high.
ESeaYour shows [, ] a full house, Eights full of threes.
ESeaYour wins $203.20 from the main pot with a full house, Eights full of threes.

I would appreciate some comments on this play, especially from rekrul, cuz he inspired me to make that move.

I don't agree, but doesn't mean it's the wrong play.

You're a 2:1 dog here and considering stack sizes it doesn't seem to be a +EV play.

I could be wrong though! Lets see what the others have to say.

rek had nut draw with 2 overcards, wasn't facing a massive raise, and probably had a read, i dunno
come on msn

hm actually count your odds, compare it to his likely hand

and add fold equity. but i don't think you have any fold equity there

going broke in an unraised pot with a flush draw gg

I don't like it. There's not enough money in the pot to try and take it down on the flop. Sure, you've got outs. But most of the time, facing an overbet like that, only a much better hand is going to call -- flush or set -- against which your outs don't mean enough to justify the push. Sophisticated players, given pot size and stack sizes, are probably going to view this as a semi-bluff just like it is.

Its not a bad play if u put this guy on Ax. But risk reward is really bad here.. I tried a similar play the other guy and ran into a big hand too.

On January 25 2006 10:31 ibsu wrote: and add fold equity. but i don't think you have any fold equity there

of course he has. it's just bad timing the other guy had the flush already. but we don't know that.

i think the play is fine, even tough he showed some strength by reraising.

There is no fold equity at this limit.
+ he is going into an unraised pot, which is not worth his time in the first place.
best line here is to take a shot at the pot, and since he got reraised, he should fold.

terrible play

end of story

fold the flop










it's an easy hand to make a mistake like that on but

never fight like that for an unraised pot

Definately a -EV play. He would raise you that strong when he has nothing to protect...He definately has a made hand already.

Ok, I usually would have folded but I did it as an experiment. Thanks for all comments, Travis' one settled it.

yeah never fight for unraised pots, especially when theres an ace there, pair of aces = nuts in donkland + theres the chance your up against trips/made flush, in an unrasied pot with this play your only getting action from hand that > yours

On January 26 2006 06:35 TalentedTom wrote: yeah never fight for unraised pots, especially when theres an ace there, pair of aces = nuts in donkland + theres the chance your up against trips/made flush, in an unrasied pot with this play your only getting action from hand that > yours

Yeah. And this is truly Donkland