seraphim is pretty wild preflop 3betting and opening a ton haven't seen much of anything from him post flop tho
i've 3bet him a couple of times and I think he might be getting the feeling of being pooped on a little bit

anyway on flop I strongly strongly thought I should check but then I Was like WTF build a pot

is check better?

wow his line is so full of shit i might just go to war on the flop

i mean tons of Ax or 5x is checking back here and he check raises after raising pre? what?

sad that u both are so deep ..for 100bbs its so easy allin

like you can check back whatever random hand you have and he gives the other two guys a free turn by checking? huh?

checking a strong hand back here can rarely be good? if he was first to act then maayybbee but

checking back with just one left to act i can't view his check raise as anything other than like 56ss or something. but even so, every nut hand on that flop can potentially get screwed with two more cards to come.

yah I had a strong thought when I was deciding to bet or not that if he c/r's I should 3bet/call

but then he did c/r and I was like "ehhhh... odds aren't bad at all for a call IP" ?

i think for 170 its good to go indeed for war ..and raise him 120 and call allin.

vs overpair u are ahead 55-45
against 45 u are 42-58
against 2 pair same 42-48
vs set 32-67

On September 24 2009 16:41 collegesucks wrote: wow his line is so full of shit i might just go to war on the flop i mean tons of Ax or 5x is checking back here and he check raises after raising pre? what?

his line is so full of shit? I dunno for you but I take this line all day long with a set

you virtually have 0 fold equity, going to war there is spewish

On September 24 2009 16:51 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2009 16:41 collegesucks wrote: wow his line is so full of shit i might just go to war on the flop i mean tons of Ax or 5x is checking back here and he check raises after raising pre? what? his line is so full of shit? I dunno for you but I take this line all day long with a set

don't you lose value when the flop checks through with only one player behind and you're playing against 3 players and an A,5,6, or any spade could potentially roll off on the turn?

if he can have a set then can't he potentially have Kxss or 57ss, 67ss as well

ty for responses

ty fayth

I think he can have a lot of FD's here...

man fayth is good

of course fayth is awesome but i can't help but think that there are lots of better spots to trap with a set on a drawy board than here, second to last to act with two shortstacked fish in the pot....

i mean if the table was full of fullstacked regulars.. a scarecard wouldn't be as bad cuz we'd have implied odds, but i don't know.. this spot feels really icky for a slowplay

On September 24 2009 17:06 collegesucks wrote: of course fayth is awesome but i can't help but think that there are lots of better spots to trap with a set on a drawy board than here, second to last to act with two shortstacked fish in the pot.... i mean if the table was full of fullstacked regulars.. a scarecard wouldn't be as bad cuz we'd have implied odds, but i don't know.. this spot feels really icky for a slowplay

I agree. I think he has a worse FD and overs more than he has a set.

bet flop is pointless. you'll get tons of money from AX and spades when you hit anyway and if you check you'll save money when you miss

on a flop of like JJ2 betting would be a lot better since you actually have a chance to win the pot on the flop, but here i think your flop bet has pretty much 0 fold equity despite the action in front. i also don't find people check/calling once and then check/folding out on boards like this so you aren't just value bluffing by betting the flop here either