Full Tilt Poker Game #15488889934: Table Bunche (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:11:28 ET - 2009/10/21
Seat 1: mishok13 ($103.70)
Seat 2: Leopard18 ($302.55)
Seat 3: P-MAN1234 ($410)
Seat 4: laila83 ($258.40)
Seat 5: Night2o11 ($596.30)
Seat 6: DrinkOJ ($294)
Night2o11 posts the small blind of $2
DrinkOJ posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #4
Holecards
Dealt to Night2o11
mishok13 folds
Leopard18 folds
Leopard18 is sitting out
Leopard18 stands up
JoinMyStack adds $400
P-MAN1234 raises to $12
laila83 folds
Night2o11 calls $10
DrinkOJ calls $8
Flop (Pot : $36.00)
Night2o11 checks
DrinkOJ checks
P-MAN1234 bets $24
Night2o11 calls $24
DrinkOJ has 15 seconds left to act
DrinkOJ folds
Turn (Pot : $84.00)
Night2o11 checks
P-MAN1234 bets $52
Night2o11 calls $52
River (Pot : $188.00)
Night2o11 checks
P-MAN1234 bets $322, and is all in
Night2o11 has 15 seconds left to act
Night2o11 has requested TIME
Night2o11 folds
Uncalled bet of $322 returned to P-MAN1234
P-MAN1234 mucks
P-MAN1234 wins the pot ($185)
Summary
Total pot $188 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: mishok13 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Leopard18 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: P-MAN1234 collected ($185), mucked
Seat 4: laila83 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Night2o11 (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: DrinkOJ (big blind) folded on the Flop
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sigh I want 2 call so badly........ |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 21 2009 16:23. Posts 9205 | | |
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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 21 2009 16:24. Posts 5911 | | |
I prefer raising over calling.
Flop that is. |
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| Last edit: 21/10/2009 16:25 |
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no strong ones, he seems bluffy and I am cally
just general thoughts about the hand on flop/turn, I think a lot of people are stone cold bluffing flop and turn, u don't? |
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i prefer call, we are good a lot, and when K or Q falls he is likely to barrel. And what are we even repping when we raise? |
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| On October 21 2009 15:27 auffenpuffer wrote:
i prefer call, we are good a lot, and when K or Q falls he is likely to barrel. And what are we even repping when we raise? |
we rep air if we raise
lol
i think call flop and turn is good vs someone who seems aggressive (good player or not), barring any further reads. I'd like to hear thoughts tho..
folding flop seems terrible because I think we have the best hand v often, and I think that carries over to turn and river depends on villain |
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| Last edit: 21/10/2009 16:29 |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 21 2009 16:30. Posts 9205 | | |
but what do we rep if we raise flop?
edit
lol too late |
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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | Last edit: 21/10/2009 16:31 |
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| On October 21 2009 15:30 lebowski wrote:
but what do we rep if we raise flop?
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air that's y I don't like it |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 21 2009 16:35. Posts 5911 | | |
So that means we should be raising with a 7 right?
In any case, I don't think people are going to be calling a flop raise w/ air, we're behind Ax, and we run the risk of getting 6 outed. |
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| On October 21 2009 15:35 edzwoo wrote:
So that means we should be raising with a 7 right?
In any case, I don't think people are going to be calling a flop raise w/ air, we're behind Ax, and we run the risk of getting 6 outed. |
like all pocket pairs will call a raise I think or ur blowing them off of a bluff. I rarely raise here w/o a reason. might be wrong |
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palak   United States. Oct 21 2009 16:39. Posts 4601 | | |
eh this seems fine to me, kinda spewy but not much
EDIT: I'm assuming this was fine if you were planning on calling a nonshove bet on the river. |
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dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium | Last edit: 22/10/2009 03:28 |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 21 2009 16:42. Posts 9205 | | |
well you're oop and just hoping for a check back most of the times on the river (do you call river if turn was a Q?) so I prefer folding flop
In position we could do many things |
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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | Last edit: 21/10/2009 16:43 |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Oct 21 2009 16:49. Posts 8918 | | |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 21 2009 16:49. Posts 5911 | | |
| On October 21 2009 15:42 lebowski wrote:
well you're oop and just hoping for a check back most of the times on the river (do you call river if turn was a Q?) so I prefer folding flop
In position we could do many things |
That's why I'm not too much of a fan for calling here. Turn is going to be checked through when he has air and we're going to hope river goes check check and take it down with K high? Or if we bet river, do we have a lot more FE than had we raised flop?
And if he does have air, "blanks" aren't really blanks because those are the cards that will give him random one pairs to win at showdown.
I'd rather just raise flop if I think he's totally full of it and fold out his equity share + A high, but if he's good enough to level 3 call my raise with 66, I still have equity to catch a pair on the next cards. |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 21 2009 16:53. Posts 5911 | | |
lol Night you get the best discussions in your hand histories |
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its prolly cuz I post a bunch of badly played hands ;D
cool a higher stakes guy said don't do this so I guess the argument is leaning towards its no good ;D |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 21 2009 16:57. Posts 9205 | | |
I agree with you edzwoo but I'm still convinced with the raising flop part =P
I've seen regs call with QJo in similar spots just because they don't want to be outplayed with what seems like an obvious bluff |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Oct 22 2009 02:15. Posts 12159 | | |
this is just absolutely atrocious beyond compare
stop putting in money drawing dead
hint: you're drawing dead when you call once or twice and check/fold to the 2nd or 3rd barrel |
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