PokerStars Game #36284484287: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2009/12/05 14:00:02 ET
Table Eurydike V 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: december133 ($38.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Arild Moberg ($47.05 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($94.90 in chips)
Seat 4: trophot2 ($29.50 in chips)
Seat 5: dreamtech129 ($74.90 in chips)
Seat 6: innamon ($54.50 in chips)
trophot2: posts small blind $0.25
dreamtech129: posts big blind $0.50
Holecards
Dealt to Hero 
innamon: folds
december133: calls $0.50
Arild Moberg: calls $0.50
Hero: raises $2.50 to $3
trophot2: folds
dreamtech129: raises $8 to $11
december133: folds
Arild Moberg: folds
Hero: calls $8
Flop (Pot : $23.25)
dreamtech129: bets $13.50
Hero: calls $13.50
Turn (Pot : $50.25)
dreamtech129: checks
Hero: bets $17.50
dreamtech129: raises $32.90 to $50.40 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet ($32.90) returned to dreamtech129
dreamtech129 collected $82.25 from pot
dreamtech129: doesnt show hand
Summary
Total pot $85.25 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: december133 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Arild Moberg folded before Flop
Seat 3: Hero (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: trophot2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: dreamtech129 (big blind) collected ($82.25)
Seat 6: innamon folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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Chewits United Kingdom. Jan 03 2010 06:09. Posts 2539 | | |
Should you really be betting this turn in a 3 bet pot? No way hes putting you on an Ace, unless you have been nitty at 3betting, which I am sure you have not, Is checking turn maybe not better? |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 03 2010 06:10. Posts 15163 | | |
15/15/3/13WTSD 4/31 3bet (14%)
squeeze 1/5 opportunities prior to the hand |
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Chewits United Kingdom. Jan 03 2010 06:12. Posts 2539 | | |
If thats the case, then hes def gonna bluff shove any turn bet you make? |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 03 2010 06:13. Posts 15163 | | |
This hand is so fucked up on so many levels |
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| 93% Sure! | Last edit: 03/01/2010 06:15 |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 03 2010 06:14. Posts 15163 | | |
I mean if I think he is so wide that I can float him for ONE HUNDRED BIG BLINDS, I would have been much better of 4bet calling pf. |
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Chewits United Kingdom. Jan 03 2010 06:15. Posts 2539 | | |
If you think about it, 13% WTSD is lol, hes clearly very aggressive. Your turn bet is so small, in my mind he has made up is mind that he is gonna shove over any weak bet you make on turn and turn his hand into a bluff. He may have JJ or something. Where as checking this turn gives you more control of the pot, puts him under pressure on the river, where he clearly does not like to showdown. |
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Chewits United Kingdom. Jan 03 2010 06:16. Posts 2539 | | |
I could be totally wrong. Just wondering. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 03 2010 06:17. Posts 15163 | | |
Anyway whats the optimal play here? just to pitch it preflop?
And yes you are right, the turn bet is dumb. |
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| 93% Sure! | Last edit: 03/01/2010 06:18 |
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Chewits United Kingdom. Jan 03 2010 06:23. Posts 2539 | | |
I am not sure. Its a difficult one. If you feel he is squeezing alot, then 4betting this is maybe your best line? However if you 4 bet this and he shoves, its gay as fuck. If he flats your 4bet, you have position and can control the pot on the flop. You would 100% raise any low boards or cbet if he checks to you any low boards. On a shit board like this, I am not sure. I am not as experienced as you. Maybe you should think about this hand later on when you are not playing, and think of it more objectively  |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 03 2010 06:30. Posts 15163 | | |
I am not playing dude, I am doing a HH review, and I dunno wtf is optimal at this point (probably a pitch preflop because of the small sample size)
I think this is a simple math question |
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| 93% Sure! | Last edit: 03/01/2010 06:31 |
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Chewits United Kingdom. Jan 03 2010 06:35. Posts 2539 | | |
Ah right ok. Thought you might be playing. Maybe folding is fine. I think its ok to call PPs in 3bets vs opponents you have a considerable read on. Ie you know their ranges alot more. Where as if your sample is small, and you are still trying to work him out, then I think folding is perfectly fine.
All though you are pretty deep, so maybe calling and folding flop is +EV ? Dont think it would be, without doing any maths. |
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Fox . Jan 03 2010 18:06. Posts 3110 | | | |
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Fox . Jan 03 2010 18:08. Posts 3110 | | |
and i fold flop most of the time as well. |
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I think you're leveling yourself too much. Fold flop imo or if ur gona float check behind and see river action since ur ip and then decide wheter to bluff or not. |
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