PokerStars Game #38516542030: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2010/01/21 23:44:09 EET [2010/01/21 16:44:09 ET]
Table Ginevra VII 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ffguitarguy ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: shermanash ($199 in chips)
Seat 3: ardiedog ($240.50 in chips)
Seat 4: BudFox974 ($214.90 in chips)
Seat 5: LostvsHouse ($344.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($208.25 in chips)
ardiedog: posts small blind $1
BudFox974: posts big blind $2
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 
LostvsHouse: raises $5 to $7
Hero: calls $7
ffguitarguy: folds
shermanash: folds
ardiedog: folds
BudFox974: folds
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $17.00)
LostvsHouse: bets $12
Hero: calls $12
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $41.00)
LostvsHouse: bets $32
Hero: calls $32
River (Pot : $105.00)
LostvsHouse: bets $73
Hero: raises $84.25 to $157.25 and is all-in
LostvsHouse: calls $84.25
Showdown
Hero: shows (a full house, Fives full of Aces)
LostvsHouse: shows 
(three of a kind, Aces)
Hero collected $416.50 from pot
Summary
Total pot $419.50 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: ffguitarguy folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: shermanash (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: ardiedog (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: BudFox974 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: LostvsHouse showed and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: Hero showed and won ($416.50) with a full house, Fives full of Aces
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Naib Hungary. Jan 21 2010 16:52. Posts 968 | | | |
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| My favourite line is Bet/Fold. I bet, you fold. | |
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lebowski Greece. Jan 21 2010 16:53. Posts 9205 | | |
LostvsHouse said, "omg ))"
LostvsHouse said, "call flop )))"
lebowskiguy said, "still coaching for free I see"
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| new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | |
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lebowski Greece. Jan 21 2010 16:54. Posts 9205 | | |
ZOMG CALL FLOP WITH SET UNREAL NOW I STACK OFF U NOOB |
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| new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | |
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lebowski Greece. Jan 21 2010 17:01. Posts 9205 | | |
dude please,you never ever do it? |
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| new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | Last edit: 21/01/2010 17:01 |
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when u set mine u have to fold flop when u hit |
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lebowski Greece. Jan 21 2010 17:06. Posts 9205 | | |
even if you don't I'm sure that in this spot it isn't wrong given the circumstances which I can explain if you want |
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| new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 21 2010 17:12. Posts 15163 | | | |
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EvilSky  Czech Republic. Jan 21 2010 17:13. Posts 8918 | | |
i dont see a problem with calling this flop |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 21 2010 17:18. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On January 21 2010 16:13 EvilSky wrote:
i dont see a problem with calling this flop |
Can you perform EV calculations against villain's perceived range for A) Check raise B) Call flop lines with pen and paper in less than 2 minutes and compare our EV for both lines with taking possible turn cards into consideration?
If not you could make use of Pokerazor or StoxEV :o |
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palak United States. Jan 21 2010 17:22. Posts 4601 | | |
| | On January 21 2010 16:18 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 16:13 EvilSky wrote:
i dont see a problem with calling this flop |
Can you perform EV calculations against villain's perceived range for A) Check raise B) Call flop lines with pen and paper in less than 2 minutes and compare our EV for both lines with taking possible turn cards into consideration?
If not you could make use of Pokerazor or StoxEV :o
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sure he could...but it's so much easier to just accept that calling flop isn't a bad play. |
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| dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium | |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 21 2010 17:26. Posts 15163 | | |
Why? its not a bad play only if a check raise gives less Expected Value against villain's range and likely reaction and turn and river cards  |
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| 93% Sure! | Last edit: 21/01/2010 17:26 |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 21 2010 17:30. Posts 15163 | | |
Anything else that the most +ev option is a bad play, so calling on flop can be indeed a bad play |
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EvilSky Czech Republic. Jan 21 2010 17:32. Posts 8918 | | |
could you please stop saying check raise cuz were in position lol and its pretty easy to estimate those sort of things plus a lot of other factors come into play than what youve mentioned. Also I dont know villian or the history prior to this hand but I can see a ton of situations where a call is indeed higher EV than a raise, actually it prolly applies the majority of the time. |
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what the fuck am i reading |
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EzPzLmnSqz United States. Jan 21 2010 17:44. Posts 549 | | | |
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| | Last edit: 21/01/2010 17:54 |
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lebowski Greece. Jan 21 2010 17:49. Posts 9205 | | | |
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| new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | |
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