can I fold? seems like I can't be not-beat

fuck i guess but id probably want to call and take a note; i guess his value range beats you and he might not bluff that size though

i'd probably tell myself he was turning something into a bluff or spazzing and call even though if he read you here for a nine and took that line that is pretty sick

there's no way this is ever ever a bluff unless villain is a noticeable gigantic fish

raise flop.

Wait, did somebody actually say that villain might turn something into a bluff at NL50? lolz :D

And calling 40bb just to get a read is dumb, thats why you observe him in pots with others so that its free right?

And please PLEASE can you give some reads when you are posting a question, these hands are so sterile

it happens actually

Submitted by : terrybunny19240

Full Tilt Poker Game #19379541851: Table Milstead (6 max, ante, deep) - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:53:45 ET - 2010/03/19
Seat 2: MAFFYA ($169)
Seat 3: Hero ($137.05)
Seat 4: theodorant ($50)
Seat 5: Yoshi828 ($192.15)
MAFFYA antes $0.10
theodorant antes $0.10
Yoshi828 antes $0.10
Hero antes $0.10
Yoshi828 posts the small blind of $0.25
MAFFYA posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
Hero raises to $1.75
theodorant folds
theodorant adds $0.10
Yoshi828 calls $1.50
MAFFYA folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.00)

   
Yoshi828 checks
Hero bets $3
Yoshi828 calls $3

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $10.00)

   
Yoshi828 checks
Hero bets $7.50
Yoshi828 calls $7.50

River (Pot : $25.00)

   
Yoshi828 checks
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero bets $15
Yoshi828 raises to $43
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero calls $28

Showdown
Yoshi828 shows two pair, Eights and Threes
Hero shows three of a kind, Threes
Hero wins the pot ($109.40) with three of a kind, Threes

Summary
Total pot $111.40 | Rake $2
Board:
Seat 2: MAFFYA (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Hero showed and won ($109.40) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: theodorant (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Yoshi828 (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes

I don't often post hands where I have reads.. my biggest problem is playing vs randoms in general i guess

Oh wow wat :O
Ftp is crazy
But you don't have any reads at all? How many hands have you played with him?

I mean even after 20 hands and 1-2 showdowns they are not randoms, you know something...

And agreed, I just play super nitty ABC hyperstandard against randoms. Even if a random 3bets me 3times in a row bb v bu it doesn't increase my calling range much. Randoms are so tilting -.-

Which also implies folding 89s depending on other villains pre if he just sat down or sth, however ridiculously nitty that might seem.

I don't see every showdown that happens, would be nice but on my laptop screen even 4 tabling they are all overlapping. plus I'm 6tabling so yah. I do try to gather information and even if i did watch him for 20 hands and 1 or 2 showdowns (unlikely I'd see that many showdowns in 20 hands), the knowledge gained isn't that likely to apply here imo :o

Yah I just play pretty nitty against randoms until I know more

On March 20 2010 04:31 Night2o1 wrote: I don't see every showdown that happens, would be nice but on my laptop screen even 4 tabling they are all overlapping. plus I'm 6tabling so yah. I do try to gather information and even if i did watch him for 20 hands and 1 or 2 showdowns (unlikely I'd see that many showdowns in 20 hands), the knowledge gained isn't that likely to apply here imo :o

Dude thats not right, do you play TAGs all day or something? The avreage for the limit is like 30VPIP, 30wtsd so you should see 1 showdown in theory

And please give watching all pots a shot...Even if it means 3 tabling. If you do it for 10 hours it won't kill you, and if your redline doesn't get fixed immediately I will eat my hat -.-

On March 20 2010 04:22 Night2o1 wrote: it happens actually Submitted by : terrybunny19240 Full Tilt Poker Game #19379541851: Table Milstead (6 max, ante, deep) - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:53:45 ET - 2010/03/19 Seat 2: MAFFYA ($169) Seat 3: Hero ($137.05) Seat 4: theodorant ($50) Seat 5: Yoshi828 ($192.15) MAFFYA antes $0.10 theodorant antes $0.10 Yoshi828 antes $0.10 Hero antes $0.10 Yoshi828 posts the small blind of $0.25 MAFFYA posts the big blind of $0.50 The button is in seat #4 Holecards(Odds) Dealt to Hero Hero raises to $1.75 theodorant folds theodorant adds $0.10 Yoshi828 calls $1.50 MAFFYA folds Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.00)     Yoshi828 checks Hero bets $3 Yoshi828 calls $3 Turn(Odds) (Pot : $10.00)     Yoshi828 checks Hero bets $7.50 Yoshi828 calls $7.50 River (Pot : $25.00)     Yoshi828 checks Hero has 15 seconds left to act Hero bets $15 Yoshi828 raises to $43 Hero has 15 seconds left to act Hero has requested TIME Hero calls $28 Showdown Yoshi828 shows two pair, Eights and Threes Hero shows three of a kind, Threes Hero wins the pot ($109.40) with three of a kind, Threes Summary Total pot $111.40 | Rake $2 Board: Seat 2: MAFFYA (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: Hero showed and won ($109.40) with three of a kind, Threes Seat 4: theodorant (button) folded before the Flop Seat 5: Yoshi828 (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes though I wouldn't expect it to be the case here

I think you can see the difference between the 2 hands

yes =p

I felt really bad about this 98 hand on the river, really wasn't sure if I could get away with a crying call.. I called anyway cuz I'm an enormous bad station ofc Gotta work on it I guess.