villain unknown over 10 hands, stats says he's played 1 hand but I didn't see it and his stack is 100bb so w/e

turn play..?

Why raise so much pre, why cbet this size, why shove turn?

that isn't a big squeeze compared to preflop raise sizes dude

cb this size because why not, board is dry, he has room to do something dumb, turn shove is tiny if I want to make it

shove turn is the whole question here, I shoved because wtf, he could conceivably call with worse and c/f seems disgusting but maybe it is best, asking for thoughts

i don't see how you are gonna get called by worse on turn

Kinda is imo related to the stacks...Do you seriously 4bet this size when bluffing?

its a sqz

yah I raise to between 8-10 and try to have more strong hands when I raise to 10 here

he open raised to 5 bb so its just all kind of odd

eh.....this hand is so awkward to play
does anybody like a check down calling at most one bet?

as played, c/f turn
shoving only folds out JJ i think?
if he turns like 88 or w/e into a bluff, then fuck him

Hm I dunno, I will have a decent amount of bluff there probably... and even with hands like QQ+ you don't want discourage a call from pocket pairs and KQs and whatnot.

This size makes it much less mathematically attractive for you when you are bluffing and you will discourage action when you are not with strong hands...

I am actually for a call here preflop when you don't know anything about villains.

i dont see why youre squeezing pf.

i sqz'd because OR is raising a lot and calling is extremely unattractive since I'm just setmining or pissed off on 90% of boards

I really don't like flatting hands where I'm oop and being forced to x/f like 80% of boards when the PFR is raising wide

if hes really raising that wide and cbetting a ton, you can float so many boards.

you dont have to fold to one bet just bcuz the board comes AKx if hes that wide and cbetting that much.

my exp I get 2 barreled 100% of the time if I float there so I've stopped, dunno what else to say

not trying to be a pecker just how it seems to be :/

i dunno, i just dont like squeezing this hand bcuz it has a lot of value just flatting and youre never going to be happy when you get 4bet in these positions without some dynamic.

youve never had a villain cbet an A high board and give up here?

I hear u

I am probably like 50% of the time squeezing 50% of the time flatting and getting pissed off postflop tbh

also youre never really gonna be happy when you get flatted here either.

lol so you are scared to play flops? boo

i mean i realize being oop sucks but we'll mostly just play a small pot with our hand. i think its definitely a more attractive option than playing a big pot with TT here.

maybe youre unbalanced here and never have top pair type hands to call a few barrels with and villains have picked up on that? that sounds unlikely though.

also possible youre overreacting to a few double barrels youve faced, similar to facing 3bets =p.

On April 13 2010 15:39 joLin wrote: i mean i realize being oop sucks but we'll mostly just play a small pot with our hand. i think its definitely a more attractive option than playing a big pot with TT here. maybe youre unbalanced here and never have top pair type hands to call a few barrels with and villains have picked up on that? that sounds unlikely though. also possible youre overreacting to a few double barrels youve faced, similar to facing 3bets =p.

is it unbalanced if I flat ATs+ here 3way? I probably squeeze all of my offsuit hands 3way if I play them (like AJo, AQo. Is that reasonable?

still feel like I'm losing every pot w TT post flop vs most players, esp when they cbet w/e flop that comes out 3way