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Handnr: 82256
Submitted by : trukpoker

Stage #462931694: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2006-10-06 02:19:03 (ET)
Table: GERALD ST (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 8 - PAMBLUFF ($22.71 in chips)
Seat 1 - DAGU05 ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 3 - TRUKPOKER ($28.45 in chips)
Seat 5 - APPLESCARVES ($39.23 in chips)
Seat 6 - 3PUNKS ($10.31 in chips)
Seat 7 - SHREWDABOM86 ($19.10 in chips)
DAGU05 - Posts small blind $0.10
TRUKPOKER - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to TRUKPOKER 5c3c
APPLESCARVES - Raises $0.50 to $0.50
3PUNKS - Folds
SHREWDABOM86 - Folds
PAMBLUFF - Calls $0.50
DAGU05 - Folds
TRUKPOKER - Calls $0.25

Flop (Pot : $0)

   4s6c7c
TRUKPOKER - Checks
APPLESCARVES - Bets $0.25
PAMBLUFF - Calls $0.25
TRUKPOKER - Calls $0.25

Turn (Pot : $0)

   4s6c7c2d
TRUKPOKER - Checks
APPLESCARVES - Bets $1
PAMBLUFF - Calls $1
TRUKPOKER - Raises $2.25 to $2.25
APPLESCARVES - Raises $3.50 to $4.50
PAMBLUFF - Folds
TRUKPOKER - Raises $8 to $10.25
APPLESCARVES - Calls $5.75

River (Pot : $0)

   4s6c7c2dAc
TRUKPOKER - Checks
APPLESCARVES - All-In $28.23
TRUKPOKER - All-In $17.45
APPLESCARVES - returned ($10.78) : not called

Showdown
APPLESCARVES - Shows 8h9d (ace high)
TRUKPOKER - Shows 5c3c (Flush, ace high)
TRUKPOKER Collects $55.85 from main pot

Summary
Total Pot($58.75) | Rake ($2.90)
Board 4s6c7c2dAc]
Seat 1: DAGU05 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: TRUKPOKER (big blind) won Total ($55.85) All-In HI:($55.85) with Flush, ace high 5c3c - B:Ac,B:7c,B:6c,P:5c,P:3c]
Seat 5: APPLESCARVES HI:lost with ace high 8h9d - B:Ac,P:9d,P:8h,B:7c,B:6c]
Seat 6: 3PUNKS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: SHREWDABOM86 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: PAMBLUFF (dealer) Folded on the TURN

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trukpoker   Australia. Oct 06 2006 00:25. Posts 901

what would u guys have put him on here. I was thinking set or missed straight by the overbet at end.

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TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Oct 06 2006 00:49. Posts 3539

wow you played this hand so badly i was actually hoping he rivered a better hand

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trukpoker   Australia. Oct 06 2006 00:58. Posts 901

rather than tell me how shit i played it, how bout help me out and telling me what i did wrong, that would be appreciated.

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TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Oct 06 2006 01:13. Posts 3539

sigh, do i have to?

Ok preflop you get minraised and have one callers. Whatever, this is the only street i like.

Flop you make a monster, the plan now is to get as much money in the pot in this hand as possible. There is $1.50 in the pot. Sometimes i will lead this into the preflop raise (like i'd play a set, hoping he raises his overpair and lets me stack him) but checking is fine. He now minbets AND gets a caller. I would usually checkraise here, but as he minbet its possible to just put him on AK i guess, so its not too bad to slowplay - in general though you don't need to ever slowplay anything, if he has anything he will pay you off at these stakes, and a million cards can scare him - if he has red aces you might get him allin on the flop. If the turn is 5c, its certainly possible he won't get stacked.

So turn is a total blank, and this time he bets a more reasonable amount, and again gets called. SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING NOW SO YOU CAN CHECKRAISE A REAL AMOUNT INSTEAD OF THE AWFUL SIZED BET YOU DO.

There is $4 in the pot, so raise to $4-5. Dont basically minraise him - there is pretty much no use for the minraise, unless you are a dumb fish.

He then minraises you (hes a fish). He is telling you he likes his hand, so you can assume its likey an overpair. You can now 3bet BIG, or even push - and hope he can't make the big laydown (being 25nl its unlikely he will). Also, if he does have something like TT-QQ while you will stack him on the flop/turn, what happens if either turn or river card had been Ac, Kc etc, some fucking scary card and now he goes into passive calldown mode, and you missed out on a ton of value.

Then the worse part of the hand, the river. He has basically said he reallllly likes his hand, so most likely holdings are overpairs, sets, two pair possibly i guess, but the scariest card in the deck hits. YOU NEEEEEEEEEEEED TO BET THIS RIVER because 88/99/TT/JJ/QQ/KK and maybe even stronger hands will almost always check behind, and then you look stupid.

The whole point is to A) get money in the pot when you have the best hand, B) make reasonable bet sizes, 3x/4x his bet is often a good bet size, and if your opening 2/3-3/4 of the pot, C) DONT LET PEOPLE MAKE GOOD FOLDS. If he has red TT here, its very likely you get him to call a checkraise on the flop, and hopefully call you down. The problem is you have no idea what he does have, but you don't want him to get scared. If he has QQ for example, turn comes Ad and you checkraise, he can now fold - its likely he gets stacked on the flop. If he has 67h, and turn comes 5c - you just lost yourself a double up, and finally D) VALUE BETTING RIVERS > CHECKING unless you have some read your opponent has missed and will bluff, or some past history. One big leak of fish is they call too much, but they don't value bet - if they aren't value betting enough and checking behind here with lots of big hands (OMG SCARY FLUSH CARD AND POSSIBLE OVERCARD HIT) then you have to make a bet and get they to pay you off rather than letting it go check check.

If you have more badly played hands, post them now before i sleep - i really am so bored im looking through hands

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