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Handnr: 82284
Submitted by : fira

PokerStars Game #6537102008: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2006/10/06 - 05:21:34 (ET)
Table 'Fayeta' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: serb2127 ($10091.90 in chips)
Seat 3: ApocalypsPLZ ($2017.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Highpothead ($1710 in chips)
Seat 5: foushee ($7179.20 in chips)
foushee: posts small blind $10
serb2127: posts big blind $20

Holecards
Dealt to ApocalypsPLZ KhKs
ApocalypsPLZ: raises $60 to $80
Highpothead: folds
foushee: calls $70
serb2127: folds

Flop (Pot : $180)

   4d7d6h
foushee: checks
ApocalypsPLZ: bets $140
foushee: raises $140 to $280
MarlonMotors joins the table at seat #6
ApocalypsPLZ: raises $220 to $500
foushee: raises $1880 to $2380
MarlonMotors leaves the table
ApocalypsPLZ: folds
foushee collected $1178 from pot
foushee: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $1180 | Rake $2
Board  4d7d6h
Seat 2: serb2127 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ApocalypsPLZ folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Highpothead (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: foushee (small blind) collected ($1178)

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fira   United States. Oct 06 2006 03:23. Posts 6345

good fold?

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Vic3Roy   Finland. Oct 06 2006 03:30. Posts 3049

If you know he's not a complete donk, I'd say yes, very good fold.

Bigaboo 

TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Oct 06 2006 03:31. Posts 3539

If your going to 3bet, why not make a decent sized raise?

If your 3bet/folding, calling and seeing what the turn is surely is better?

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Vic3Roy   Finland. Oct 06 2006 03:37. Posts 3049

What good could turn possibly even bring? ;o, only help would be Kc and still you could be underdog ;(
I think it has to be solved on flop.

Bigaboo 

TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Oct 06 2006 03:44. Posts 3539


  On October 06 2006 02:37 Vic3Roy wrote:
What good could turn possibly even bring? ;o, only help would be Kc and still you could be underdog ;(
I think it has to be solved on flop.



3betting is just asking good draws to rape the fuck out of you

ESP if you plan to fold, and only make a weakass 3bet.

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Vic3Roy   Finland. Oct 06 2006 03:53. Posts 3049

So that leaves us 2 options:

1. 3bet BIGTIME
2. Fold to reraise

Bigaboo 

fira   United States. Oct 06 2006 14:39. Posts 6345


  On October 06 2006 02:31 TwistedEcho wrote:
If your going to 3bet, why not make a decent sized raise?

If your 3bet/folding, calling and seeing what the turn is surely is better?


If I 3bet more, and he had a decent draw/set/2pair, he would've pushed nonetheless. The 3bet was just to kill shittydraws and bluffs. I would've wasted more money if I was to raise more (unless I was determined to eventually get it all in)

And most likely if I call, the turn will bring a blank or a card that worsens the situation. Only card that could aid me is K.


TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Oct 07 2006 13:03. Posts 3539

im not calling to IMPROVE, im calling to get allin on a 'blank' - if he has a set/2p good for him, he stacks me. Its 4 handed, and you have KINGS. personally i usually 3bet this to like 900 and call if he pushes, and the times i call - i guess i fold if turn is a low diamond and he bombs the pot etc, but Ts is a blank for me etc - anything that doesn't improve possible combo draws and my i get allin. 4s is a blank too etc

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fira   United States. Oct 07 2006 22:27. Posts 6345

I don't think anything I have beat would push after I reraise to 900. I potcommit myself that way, and he can decide entirely on the outcome of the hand. if he has a weak draw, he'd fold, and push if he has a very strong draw. If he has 2pair, set, or straight, he'd push. If he had 88-TT, he'd probably fold. JJ and QQ most likely would've reraised preflop. AA would probably call. Seems the best situation where I would win an all in here is a 50/50 vs a strong draw. If he folds a weaker hand, I get just the mere 220 he put in. It gives him a LOT of freedom IMO.

 Last edit: 07/10/2006 22:29

 

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