I felt I knew almost exactly where I was in this hand, he's got the A, when he bet on the turn, I was going to fold, but I saw the flush draw, and decided there that I'd maybe a move on it, when the flush hit, I deliberatly spent a long time, before I checked it, and when he made his valuebet, I reacted like after 4 seconds.

Ok, any thoughts if this wasn't a good bluff, or a good spot to make my pair into a bluff, plz elaborate.

how can you be so sure he's got the ace on turn? he can have a fd, A7s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, 88+, now and then an even lower pair or a complete airball.
Your line looks strange but I still think a river shove is very profitable, unless he's a station or he's caught you doing something like this before.

nvm the A7s since he'd most likely raise it on the flop.

if you know you're behind, you shouldn't put in money and hope to get a good bluff card

On May 07 2010 00:35 hellokittery wrote: if you know you're behind, you shouldn't put in money and hope to get a good bluff card

I didn't know I was behind, but I felt after he bet that he probably have an A, or that's what he's representing, so by calling, I'm representing flushdraw, if the flush hadn't hit, It'd just hope for the 20% I was wrong and he didn't have an A and he checks it down, as I assume he will because of his timid, a bit tight demeanor. And since he's tight, adds to my fold equity.

Maybe should add that earlier I've bet x2 the pot on river with air and showed it, and a few times with the nuts. Not 100% sure how that plays into his decision.

It should mean that he'll call you with the top of his range that isn't flushes or fhs now and then.

Edit: or wtf, idk, your line is so strange. You either have a monster or turned a hand with marginal value into a bluff. Since you've showed some bluffs I think you'll actually get called by like AT sometimes and almost always by his trips. Not sure though since yuo say he's tight.
+ he's hardly ever going to have a full house on this board.

Unless he has a history of floating often, then I like this line a lot more.