any tips? this is my 1st time playing nl50 rush this year so no info on villain

i probably do alot of thigns but im not folding
?o-O

? are you serious?

really? he pots turn like he's rolling with 2p+ yo?

I'd never never never never never fold

whyyyyy not

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I'm not answering this one for you. Think about it for yourself.

well just to note few things: positions, stacks, implied odds, noone bluffs river etcetc.

damn, takes balls to post that.. the balls you will use to own the game after you learn it i guess

lol

ofc I have thought about it for myself I want to see why people disagree.

ok here are a couple of ranges I cooked up

If he does this with Ace Jack (no draw) or better + all NFD + all pair+flushdraws + all combo draws

Board: 4s 6c As 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.508% 51.46% 04.04% 1336 105.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 44.492% 40.45% 04.04% 1050 105.00 { 66, 44, AJs+, A6s, A4s, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, 8s7s, 8s6s, 7s6s, 7s5s, 6s5s, 64s, 5s3s, 3s2s, AJo+, A6o, A4o, 64o }


If he does it with that same range except without AJ or AQ (but still AK)

Board: 4s 6c As 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.856% 35.31% 05.55% 668 105.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 59.144% 53.59% 05.55% 1014 105.00 { 66, 44, AKs, A6s, A4s, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, 8s7s, 8s6s, 7s6s, 7s5s, 6s5s, 64s, 5s3s, 3s2s, AKo, A6o, A4o, 64o }


And we need 33% equity to continue, ok I guess its a call if he plays ALL of his draws this way, then what about the river?


I really don't think the average nl50 player plays all of their draws like this (mostly talking about pair+FDs and NFDs esp. on Ahi board).. I just took all of nfd and pair+fd and I still had 37% equity though.

So call or shove? Do you think he is stone cold bluffing and will fold to the shove? (I assume he would never fold below)


My bad math attempt (I srsly wish I could remember if this is the proper way to do this, I googled it and think I figured out how.. let me know):
I shove $58.9 and he calls, end-pot is $128.90 after $2 rake.

40% of the time I win the total pot of $128.8

(.40 * 128.8) = $51.52

60% of the time I lose $58.9

= $58.9

$51.52
-58.9
EV = -$7.38


Vs the range I have 55% equity against (which means he is trying to stack off with AJo+) a shove is nicely +EV

55% of the time I win the total pot of $128.8
= $70.84

45% of the time I lose $58.9

$70.84
-58.9
EV = + $11.94

Well, I think that 55% range is bullshit but it might also be bullshit that he never folds to my shove.. idk.

But shoving turn is -EV vs the 40% range

I guess that means we have to call turn since we only need 33% equity to continue vs his bet and we have 40%.

So I should of flat called turn.

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How do different river cards and his action change our river decision..?

Do we assume he is never bluffing river? Then we just have to deduce our equity vs his value range on various rivers?

Our equity unimproved on the river vs his valuerange is obviously abysmal (its actually zero, unless he can shove AK for value on the river.. then we have 2% equity).

Here it is when we hit offsuit K

Board: 4s 6c As 5c Kh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.500% 65.00% 02.50% 13 0.50 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 32.500% 30.00% 02.50% 6 0.50 { 66, 44, AKs, A6s, A4s, 64s, 64o }

We have 60% equity when a king of spades falls.

Should we donkjam when we improve to top 2 on non-spade rivers (I think non-spade because he'd be likely to fold 2pair hands to a jam on Ks since the flush got there)

Our equity is ofc very good if we hit a club; should we be donk jamming on non-pairing clubs? Should we call river when the river is a pairing club, since he is no longer going to jam a counterfeited 2pair but will obviously jam his boats?



And its a call turn-x/f river unimproved vs a random opponent?

just call without reads but dont fold

im not reading your pokerstove mumbo jumbo, youre blind vs blind with tptk and a flush draw. thats enough incentive to never fold