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Handnr: 833291
Submitted by : Stroggos

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PokerStars Game #45266937290: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/06/09 17:58:24 NZT [2010/06/09 1:58:24 ET]
Table Scylla VII 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: CaptainGant ($100.75 in chips)
Seat 2: amysta ($59.50 in chips)
Seat 3: WaddlesWorth ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 4: jungyoungju ($60.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Apagon ($33.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Stroggos_nz ($71.40 in chips)
WaddlesWorth: posts small blind $0.25
jungyoungju: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Stroggos_nz TsTc
Apagon: calls $0.50
Stroggos_nz: raises $2 to $2.50
CaptainGant: folds
amysta: folds
WaddlesWorth: folds
jungyoungju: folds
Apagon: calls $2

Flop (Pot : $5.75)

   6c5d9d
Apagon: checks
Stroggos_nz: bets $4
Apagon: calls $4

Turn (Pot : $13.75)

   6c5d9dAd
Apagon: bets $5
Stroggos_nz: calls $5

River (Pot : $23.75)

   6c5d9dAd6d

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Stroggos   New Zealand. Jun 09 2010 02:01. Posts 1117

wtf do i do on the turn

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TheHuHu3   United States. Jun 09 2010 02:07. Posts 5544

Dunno.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

SpasticInk   Sweden. Jun 09 2010 02:07. Posts 6298

fold?


Grindasaurus   Canada. Jun 09 2010 02:42. Posts 350

i dunno, i might be retarded - but i raise and fold to any more aggression.

you really think villain just smashed his flush/2p? and depending on his tightness, think they float much at this limit? or that he slowplayed queens, jacks or kings? c'mon

i dunno. depending on your style of play and how you deal with variance is basically the deciding factors in this hand


hellokittery   United States. Jun 09 2010 02:52. Posts 1399

raise is pretty bad
i usually just call turn and c/f river though folding turn might be better iono


Grindasaurus   Canada. Jun 09 2010 03:11. Posts 350


  On June 09 2010 01:52 hellokittery wrote:
raise is pretty bad
i usually just call turn and c/f river though folding turn might be better iono



  On June 09 2010 01:52 hellokittery wrote:
raise is pretty bad
i usually just call turn and c/f river though folding turn might be better iono


i'm curious why you think a raise is bad? definitely gets him to fold like 85%+ hands that don't contain an ace.. protects also from mp/gk hands, and well. fuck him for his ~1/3 pot raise

if he raises - slam dunk fold. if he calls.. proceed extremely cautiously (basically c/f river)

maybe i just play too aggressively, i dunno. generally makes decisions much easier when it comes down to it however


Stroggos   New Zealand. Jun 09 2010 03:12. Posts 1117

i couldn't put him on a range here, i thought he could maybe have king of diamonds and was making a weird sort of block bet.

Turned out he had A6, an i of course folded to the river shove.


hellokittery   United States. Jun 09 2010 03:16. Posts 1399

if we raise, we fold out everything we beat most of the time. we don't really need protection from middle pair crap


Grindasaurus   Canada. Jun 09 2010 03:16. Posts 350

well i guess i was wrong in this particular spot.

but, a raise on the turn would definitely have made every other decision much easier... which generally means profitable, stress-free situations.

i dunno. i sometimes get fucked up by sets when i hold tptk, but i also much more often destroy other people with draws and tpgk. like i said, all a matter of style and dealing with variance

fwiw: someone who plays a6 like that, only strengthens my belief that turn raises are good here


Grindasaurus   Canada. Jun 09 2010 03:21. Posts 350


  On June 09 2010 02:16 hellokittery wrote:
if we raise, we fold out everything we beat most of the time. we don't really need protection from middle pair crap


i strongly disagree. look at the board

then again, whatever. i'm no tom dwan, but i do pretty decently with how i play... maybe i should start raising less? ...... nahhh


vlseph   United States. Jun 09 2010 03:24. Posts 3026

fish make weird "value bets" and "blocking bets" all the time, i'd call the turn.

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

dreamtech   . Jun 09 2010 03:31. Posts 104

i agree with calling turn since he bets so small, and folding river if he bets again. he might show up with all sorts of pair + fd like Kd9 on the turn and check river if he misses


Grindasaurus   Canada. Jun 09 2010 03:31. Posts 350

my apologies to vls. i took it the wrong way.

regardless, i still like a raise on the turn. can't automatically assume villain hit flush/ace on turn.

again, sorry

 Last edit: 09/06/2010 03:46

hellokittery   United States. Jun 09 2010 03:35. Posts 1399

none of these posts seem condescending to me at all


djforever   Canada. Jun 09 2010 03:47. Posts 1510

call fold river.


djforever   Canada. Jun 09 2010 03:49. Posts 1510

o and dont raise turn...


Grindasaurus   Canada. Jun 09 2010 04:04. Posts 350

hrmmmmmphh... i obviously have a glaring leak in my game if i think raising turn is +EV

fml.


LikeASet   United States. Jun 10 2010 01:17. Posts 2113

folding turn seems fine, him leading this turn, don't see why villain is not going to bluff a million rivers. calling puts us in a really akward river spot.

I think this villain needs some describin' : )

 Last edit: 10/06/2010 01:20

 

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