is this anygood? its 33 for him to call

board doesnt run out too good imo and its BvB so it's hard for him to fold much

KQ KT 8T 96

Maybe KJ / K9. Maybe FD.

I think I'd prefer cc rather than CR because hueg part of fold out range you beat w/ your T.

yeah too true about bvb, maybe since I hit a pair x/f is best.. people will check down T9 and all other pairs except for a K.. only getting bluffed by a rare fd..

just thinking i might be able to win the pot from a K here?

mehhhh he won't fold because he bet half pot

Maybe he could fold a Q or J kicker. Seems to be a smaller part of his range so I wouldn't bother.

blockbet third of a pot and if he calls with worse say its "thin value"

if i was bluffing here i wouldn't be bluffing cuz i put him on a king. trying to get him to lay down a king without knowing villain can make solid folds is suicidal.

yeah good point, this card improves his range a lot more than I thought after-all (was thinking about 9T, flushdraws, and Kx but didn't take into account KT improved or 8T). I was kind of disappoint that he snapped with 96o here. Seems like a shitty way to play the hand..

another thing, i'd be much happier with a bluff here if the flush got there too. that puts in a shitton more combos of monster hands you can rep here.

you think he isn't going to show up with a flush too often to do this on flush cards?

i see you've decided you dont want bluffcatching to be a part of your game

lol good point I am uncomfortable with it tbh, its like I can't decide if everyone is a sick nit who never bluffs or if people are bluffing constantly

do you think thisi s agood place to bluff catch? I just don't know what they are bluffing with by this point except for FDs which isn't a big part of their range combo wise I thought? Like I said I was either raising or folding here :/

lol this feels smart and cool and all but you gotta remember at the end of the day people are just big stations

On July 14 2010 18:42 Maynard! wrote: KQ KT 8T 96 Maybe KJ / K9. Maybe FD. I think I'd prefer cc rather than CR because hueg part of fold out range you beat w/ your T.

On July 14 2010 18:43 lebowski wrote: mehhhh he won't fold because he bet half pot

if you combine those two decent posts , you will see that he aint folding anything that beats you.
only hand is prob folding here is a FD that missed , thus he is betting from position to pretend a "thin value" hand
(betting half pot)

what hands would you be taking this line for value with. seems like you would want to be 3barelling here over c/r since his bet/calling range is going to be pretty small and realistically if you have like 77 are you going to try to c/jam and level kq or just barell and get called wider

thought about it some more I think x/c is best, I don't have to be good that often and a mental combo tally tells me they are bluffing frequently enough