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Handnr: 859593
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Game #50097147050: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/09/24 15:27:52 WET [2010/09/24 10:27:52 ET]
Table Lamberta II 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jvxxx ($51.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Dan265 ($27.35 in chips)
Seat 3: qTTro ($63.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Metranos ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 5: MPW2009 ($50.60 in chips)
Seat 6: DoC.LemOn ($50 in chips)
Dan265: posts small blind $0.25
qTTro: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to DoC.LemOn AsAh
Metranos: folds
MPW2009: raises $1 to $1.50
DoC.LemOn: raises $3.50 to $5
jvxxx: folds
Dan265: folds
qTTro: raises $8.50 to $13.50
MPW2009: folds
DoC.LemOn: calls $8.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $28.75)

   Tc2c4h
qTTro: bets $10.35
DoC.LemOn: raises $26.15 to $36.50 and is all-in
qTTro: calls $26.15

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $101.75)

   Tc2c4hQc

River (Pot : $101.75)

   Tc2c4hQc7c

Showdown
qTTro: shows KsKc (a flush, King high)
DoC.LemOn: shows AsAh (a pair of Aces)
qTTro collected $98.75 from pot

Summary
Total pot $101.75 | Rake $3
Board  Tc2c4hQc7c
Seat 1: jvxxx (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Dan265 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: qTTro (big blind) showed KsKc and won ($98.75) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: Metranos folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: MPW2009 folded before Flop
Seat 6: DoC.LemOn showed AsAh and lost with a pair of Aces

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 24 2010 10:32. Posts 15163

Still aight equity, I went AI on flop AA v Q5o for 80bbs ina live tourney yesterday on a J9xr and lost to a runner runner straight -.-

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vasoline73   United States. Sep 24 2010 10:35. Posts 810

Results would have been totally the same but I always wonder why people flat 4bets with AA. Is there a reason to flat pre? I'm asking honestly because I feel like it's something I would never do


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 24 2010 10:40. Posts 15163

Its all about calculating lost equity when he c/f s AK or AQ that he would stack off with when you shove + and an overcard to his KK QQ coming VS gained equity when he cbets/stack offs with a draw with hands that would fold to a shove

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vasoline73   United States. Sep 24 2010 10:42. Posts 810

Ahhh ok that makes sense. ty


longple    Sweden. Sep 24 2010 10:46. Posts 4472

dont like having a call 4b range for 100bb

and dont like this if ur not calling 4bets like, all the time

deep on regular basis though i pretty much dont have a 5bet range IP, u can be alot thougher playing against oop if u flat a "balanced" range to 4bets


longple    Sweden. Sep 24 2010 10:46. Posts 4472

when i see this play from other regs at these low stakes i go like "ty for giving my range moneys sir"


longple    Sweden. Sep 24 2010 10:48. Posts 4472

also dont see why u wanna shove the flop t_t seems retarded, let him bluff shove good turns for him if he is totally airballing here on K turns for example, when he picks up a FD or w/e


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 24 2010 10:48. Posts 15163

I'm sure you can come up with scenarios when this would apply, this was a very specific example where I was folding a lot to 3bets with nitty image and he had 20% 3bet percentage in the BB.

With enough time spent you could construct equations for both and calculate ev to find a finer line (if you like math lol ;o)

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longple    Sweden. Sep 24 2010 10:49. Posts 4472

and if he have QQ its not like hes just gonna go insta ch/fold on a K turn these stacks so ur not really giving up anything


 

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