im glad 1/2 regs never learn how to play

other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about?

On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about?

exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine

I don't really see a problem w villain's line either. leading or checking river is 100% fine and fairly player dependent as well.

On October 26 2010 22:41 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about? exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine

I never understood this logic.

What if villain had a boat here (just somehow he did)? He shouldn't raise because he may only get called by AJ/AT or the occasional straight?

On October 26 2010 23:17 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2010 22:41 Baal wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about? exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine I never understood this logic. What if villain had a boat here (just somehow he did)? He shouldn't raise because he may only get called by AJ/AT or the occasional straight?

you never understood only trying to raise for value when your hand gets called by a worse value hand >50% of the time?

his name is hotwussy he lived up to his name.

On October 26 2010 23:17 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2010 22:41 Baal wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about? exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine I never understood this logic. What if villain had a boat here (just somehow he did)? He shouldn't raise because he may only get called by AJ/AT or the occasional straight?

There is a straight on the board

On October 26 2010 23:28 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2010 23:17 TheHuHu3 wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:41 Baal wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about? exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine I never understood this logic. What if villain had a boat here (just somehow he did)? He shouldn't raise because he may only get called by AJ/AT or the occasional straight? you never understood only trying to raise for value when your hand gets called by a worse value hand >50% of the time?

So basically it's not the fact that we're raising for value, it's the fact that we're only going to get called less than 50% of the time? How is that justifiable? (I'm honestly interested)

This may sound stupid but if we saw durrr get villain's hand by river, he's always raising there 100% of the time, no?

On October 26 2010 23:39 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2010 23:17 TheHuHu3 wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:41 Baal wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about? exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine I never understood this logic. What if villain had a boat here (just somehow he did)? He shouldn't raise because he may only get called by AJ/AT or the occasional straight? There is a straight on the board

Yeah there is but it's unlikely that hero here has a straight. Sometimes flatting here is fine obv, but there are SOOOOO many turn cards that just kill your action / value. Almost everybody and their mom's sister raises a straight there.

And villain's hand is disguised as fuck. I'm just saying, as the action played out, it's unlikely hero has a set/straight here especially on an action flop like that.

On October 26 2010 23:42 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2010 23:28 Daut wrote:   On October 26 2010 23:17 TheHuHu3 wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:41 Baal wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about? exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine I never understood this logic. What if villain had a boat here (just somehow he did)? He shouldn't raise because he may only get called by AJ/AT or the occasional straight? you never understood only trying to raise for value when your hand gets called by a worse value hand >50% of the time? So basically it's not the fact that we're raising for value, it's the fact that we're only going to get called less than 50% of the time? How is that justifiable? (I'm honestly interested) This may sound stupid but if we saw durrr get villain's hand by river, he's always raising there 100% of the time, no?

no, he's 3barrelling probably

On October 26 2010 23:45 player999 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2010 23:42 TheHuHu3 wrote:   On October 26 2010 23:28 Daut wrote:   On October 26 2010 23:17 TheHuHu3 wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:41 Baal wrote:   On October 26 2010 22:26 wobbly_au wrote: other than his turn play (which isn't very bad) what are u glad about? exactly what i was going to say, he just happened to be against the only hand he might get a call from a raise, why would he value-raise him here?, he played it fine I never understood this logic. What if villain had a boat here (just somehow he did)? He shouldn't raise because he may only get called by AJ/AT or the occasional straight? you never understood only trying to raise for value when your hand gets called by a worse value hand >50% of the time? So basically it's not the fact that we're raising for value, it's the fact that we're only going to get called less than 50% of the time? How is that justifiable? (I'm honestly interested) This may sound stupid but if we saw durrr get villain's hand by river, he's always raising there 100% of the time, no? no, he's 3barrelling probably

Yeah you're right, durrr would most likely 3-barrel here.

if ur getting called LESS than 50% of the time by a worse hand and more often by a better hand u can't valueraise. pretty basic shit i dont get why people dont understand this -.-

this hand is completely 100% standard at 1/2, thats why they/we (me too) play 1/2, we cant all be durr

its hard to extract max value, esp. in a hand like this where hero's river bet looks pretty strong. multitabling also takes its toll and we cant always make a 100% educated decision, plus most players dont exactly embrace variance so it's easy to just click call.

easy, ask exhilerate with what hands he bet/calls a shove on the river.