i don't like it, isn't his play pretty consistent with a flush?

I'd discard flushes from his range because reopening the betting with that turn bet would be headexplosive with those hands and sets would just bet bigger too on the turn right?

what about sizing? he has to fold about 50% of time now?

the way i look at it is most of the hands he bets turn like this that would fold to your c/r would have just checked behind river. imo the fact that sets would bet bigger on the turn is more reason to think his range is flush-heavy on the river, esp since flushes are in your range. results?

he can have a flush here, he can also have like TT"s going for thin value or even a set scared of a flush, some 2 pairz 2.

so based on that i think your river c/r is ok. you could prob just make it 90 and save yourself 20 dollars on a bluff.


but i think on turn it is ok to c/f seeing as you don't have that great of a hand 4 way unless u have some specific reads imo.

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On December 07 2010 14:47 mnj wrote: he can have a flush here, he can also have like TT"s going for thin value or even a set scared of a flush, some 2 pairz 2.

idk, i would expect set/2 pair to bet turn bigger and TT to check behind river.

but i think on turn it is ok to c/f seeing as you don't have that great of a hand 4 way unless u have some specific reads imo.

yea agree with this

why raise the river this i don't understand. You do realize if he's got 2 pair or a set he's most likely not folding anyhow. You might as well have the nut low here.

On December 07 2010 15:29 GfOrcebOnd wrote: why raise the river this i don't understand. You do realize if he's got 2 pair or a set he's most likely not folding anyhow. You might as well have the nut low here.

it's not 1cent/2cent, people can at least somewhat interpret board texture -_-

does anyone think that some villains could fold sets here?
how about when we raise $20 less?

the turn call is just me being a POW whenever someone bets "too small"

yeah if he's not a drooler i would def expect him to fold sets if you think he can have them.

agree turn is a weird spot, i was thinking about saying fold turn since your oop and it's going to be hard to make good decisions on the river regardless of whether there's a scare card or not. but there's just so many draws or pair+draws like 98/T9 you have dominated that it's probably ok to call? not sure, i think the turn is kind of interesting actually T_T