-CC WHEN TURNED 2P OOP -barrel huge draw -donk TP big -donk also air -donk when hit turn -vbet 2-4 rvr A -call junk to 3b

I have been playing tight passive, but he is one of the types that simply can't help himself (Hello Saibot? LOL sorry man couldn't resist)

I saw him bomb draw on turn and give up on river before(he generally doesn't bluff river unless I check behind flop IP - a '2Barrel type guy'), and he like always fires when he misses (The bet vs missed stat is only slightly toned down in 3b pots)

Who is for c/c twice and do we still fold river?

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he's probably still holding a pretty large part of his opening range right? or does he fold to 3bets a lot?
is he the guy that would want to outplay you a lot - e.g. raise flop cbets?

you're good here a lot I'd think, but bet/3bet may be a little bit overplaying I guess, although would he raise you with 33-77 and would he not 4bet pre with at least 1010+?

what do you expect to see when you cbet or when you check?

On January 11 2011 07:49 boreHM wrote: he's probably still holding a pretty large part of his opening range right? or does he fold to 3bets a lot? is he the guy that would want to outplay you a lot - e.g. raise flop cbets? you're good here a lot I'd think, but bet/3bet may be a little bit overplaying I guess, although would he raise you with 33-77 and would he not 4bet pre with at least 1010+? what do you expect to see when you cbet or when you check?

Correct stats uploaded. He rarely folds to 3bets. He 4bet just once so far so I am not sure. When I cbet I expect a call or a raise a decent amount of the time, rarely a fold, so I guess I could bet for value and call raise call turn shove?

hmm crap now I saw the results
I prefer cbetting I think (edit: with that raise flop IP % I'm shoving over a raise too I think)
dunno I'd like to see what a HU reg would say about this

So we are cbetting for value right? he really rarely folds to just one bet.

That's why I am afraid of a cbet, cbetting and c/f or fold to a raise just sucks against him, I was rarely cbetting in single raised pots for that reason

On January 11 2011 07:59 LemOn[5thF] wrote: So we are cbetting for value right? he really rarely folds to just one bet

that would make it even more for value
but yeah turn/river may not be super easy to play
if he's not really barreling (as a bluff) more than twice, then c/c twice is probably easiest

You think too hard imo. In HU I just do what feels right.

why give away agression on such a perfect looking flop? if he is never folding to 3b's then this is pretty much best flop you can hope for after Axx and Qxx obv

i think i'd pretty much always b/3bet here

bet 3betting is stupid, you'll only get called by better.
i think checking flop with the intention of calling 3 streets is fine vs this type of player. just result orientated.

On January 11 2011 09:06 gororokgororok wrote: bet 3betting is stupid, you'll only get called by better. i think checking flop with the intention of calling 3 streets is fine vs this type of player. just result orientated.

he won't have better that often and the 3bet on flop will be offering villain something like 3:1 on his money since the pot would be so bloated. he calls all flush draws (which we beat) and if he chooses to raise AJ or AT i can't imagine him folding them which we crush.

considering villain is a "double barrel kind of guy" b/3b achieves the same thing that c/c does without the free cards.

check calling instead of cbetting IS NEVER NEVER a good play

cbet flop , you really have the best hand most of the time here.
otherwise if you wanna check call his bets cause he is bluffing a lot you played fine i think.