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Whats the best play player3 can do now? Ship it? Or maybe just flat?
Or is this a clear fold for player3 given heros range at this point?

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i love all the important VPIP and AF stats over 50 hand samples, much to discuss here.
shipping would be risking too much to win too little but works fine vs lvl2 fishregulars, calling is good with most of what he got, this is not a clear fold for player3 because he can have a ton of shit that beats you anyway (straights, 2p hands, sets)
his only mistake is not to raise with a better hand to about 26. he can't go wrong your hand is face up and played badly. but that's just me. i dislike this flop c/r very much.

you check/raise to build a pot and when the ultimate scarecard for him comes you vbet like a girl to make it obvious (baiting with halfpot to get calls from JJ QQ KK Tx) this isn't going anywhere. if you had to bluf this river, would it be 7.50 aswell. you dont get any value or folds with either

On February 17 2011 07:22 cariadon wrote: you check/raise to build a pot and when the ultimate scarecard for him comes you vbet like a girl to make it obvious (baiting with halfpot to get calls from JJ QQ KK Tx) this isn't going anywhere. if you had to bluf this river, would it be 7.50 aswell. you dont get any value or folds with either

+1 i also think flop c/r is pretty bad, river has to be like 11-12 as played

yeah why c/r flop if a you rep such a narrow range and b you dont even follow through on turn...

He seemed like a non-reg type, I had a plan to c/r low flops because he will fold his broadways (should be some 60% of his range), I guess calling is cool too as I don't fold out much I don't already beat, but it's always nice to have initiative and see where we are at and not get owned on any turn card... In the hand my PF plan was to just flat and and take it down on good flops so it stuck in my head a bit I guess.

There was no history and I was pretty nitty in the session over small sample

He turbosnap called flop so I discounted KK AA QQ and sets heavily, he would think about it at least a bit right? So his range will be like 77-99 JJ TX. I didn't think 77-99 would fold a good amount as they picked up something on turn, so I guess I could still target his AT JJ stuff...but I didn't know if he is a station of whatever and where on flop I am really comfy just raising and getting him off his air here, I don't like betting into people at NL50 when I know they have a made hand fo shizzle (I'd still bet a K on turn because it doesn't give outs to 77-99 and is a more obvious scarecard for a lvl1 villain that doesn't realize it really isn't in my range much)
On the river against a reg I like a less transparent bet, I agree there, but when this guy insta checked turn I thought JJ AT is now discounted and his range will be mostly weak tens and pps. No history, he didn't seem to be a regular based on the fact that I don't know him and that he has those stats and snap acts, so I assumed it is more likely that he is more towards level1 and even if he isn't my nitty image would make him less likely to make hero calls when I bomb it. Balancing my betsizing is a big mistake in this spot imo

what would u do if he bet turn

fold I didn't expect a non reg tagfish to float air. Even if he is good would he really turbosnap call here on flop when he is floating?

Is my thought process bullcrap?

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