call

shove safe turn

if turn is a spade or J/8/T then fold

i like 4 betting pf here, but thats cause i 4bet here with bad hands too
i might just pitch this board its so horrible..
i also like a c/c better than leading so strnogly at this

On October 21 2006 19:02 Pokerintheface wrote: if turn is a spade or J/8/T then fold

i don't see why an 8 or 10 is a bad card.. sorta unlikely his opp has an 8 or a 10..
if an 8 or 10 turns i might try to represent the strait in some way since its unliekly eh has it.. idk

post this in hand discussion im curios to see what people say

first of all reraise more pre, that rr sucks

On October 21 2006 19:03 vvvQ wrote:      [removed quote within quote] i don't see why an 8 or 10 is a bad card.. sorta unlikely his opp has an 8 or a 10.. if an 8 or 10 turns i might try to represent the strait in some way since its unliekly eh has it.. idk

8 or T is a bad card because he can be doing this with ace high fd, or any pair + gutshot like JT, 98, 78, J8, or any one pair with a second spade

if the turn was a 9 it'd be tough to lay it down, but turn J you should probably fold, clean turn (2h) you should shove, 7 is like the best card for you

IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, you gotta play this hand really fast blind on blind

folding the flop is okay only vs a very very passive tight fag

im never in spots like this since ia lways 4-bet pre and go broke !
but i don't think hes semibluff minraising with like 89 or JT.. maybe if he has teh spade he can be doing that..
idk depends on the player, very interesting hand though =)

oh wait

SHIT I MISRED THIS HAND I THOUGHT YOU 3-BET HIM

yes 4-bet pre