Flop: He should never have a hand that beats me witg this betsize, I rep air when I raise gay size v his gaybet... he reps even more air when he re-raises so lol
Turn: Wtf, call can't see how I'm beat
Rvr: I'd call as well unless he pots it or something... I was thinking about a small vbet vs his bullshit air range, but is my hand strong enough to bet small call here, and he might bluff shove some of the time when he showed he can rr bullshit but could pick up like A5 56 or just be retarded and play a set like this (EDIT: but pretty much everyone would bet those like always here right?) and regular size bet is just overrepping my hand brutally and shouldn't get called much at all, but I still have the best hand so much here but fuck it just check ;o

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why you bothering posting those standard hands?

This one isn't that standard for me :O
would you vbet rvr?

hands = 8

i dunno why u are making assumptions :/

he could easily be betting to induce from you, and on such a dry board i don't really know what u beat. nl50 on stars though is way past me, as i could never in my life put him on his hand, nor you on your hand.

so just to clarify, you're raising flop because you think you rep nothing and will induce a reraise bluff vs an unknown?

On February 22 2011 07:38 mnj wrote: he could easily be betting to induce from you, and on such a dry board i don't really know what u beat.

Think about it, I am unknown, he seems to be a TAG based on the few hands I got and the fact he auto-rebuys and hides his VIP level.

-he has little reason to induce when he has no clue what player type I am(I 2 table if he looked...)
-When he does decide to induce we can agree that people do that against unknowns with 2p+ type hands and rarely 1p type hands except for AA some of the time. The number of 2 pairs is very limited here and there will be 0-6 combos in most reg's ranges.
-so we can safely assume his range is either air, 8x 5x or any PP and heavily discounted sets and the very odd AA and AK (we block AK

Now look at turn cards, when he does have 8x 5x or any pair some 70% of turn cards will be scarecards for him and I will get less value. In addition, the standard at this limit is to never 2 barrel KXXr against an unknown and you see someone barreling air very very rarely. If it was normal to 2 barrel and I will pick up a lot of bluffs on turn than I lose a lot of value from by raising flop if I think he folds hands he'd 2 barrel on turn. So by raising I get value from 4x 8x pocket pairs that will be less inclined to call on majority of turn cards and lose very little value from those hands...Pretty much anyone will call a small raise with 8x or 4x after they bet so small because otherwise they would feel dumb. AND you have the bonus of the times when he actually is a thinking regular, knows I rep fuck all and his bet will induce a lot of raises with air and decides to play back with bullshit or go call 2 streets withy AQ high

Now when he re-raises he virtually never has a one pair value hand...Have you ever see someone with fullstack autorebuy bet small rr tiny KJ in this spot? So he still has homosexually played sets and some fraction of AA and bullshit. But when he bets 50% on turn...well who bets 45% on turn with those hands? Even if he does, I have great odds to call here against a range that will on average have a ton of air in it so we can safely say turn is never a fold. When he checks river we can discount with some 98% hands that he was inducing on flop with such as sets K8 or AA...he has no reason to trap or think I will bet a lot here, or that I bet at all, and when you trap you pull the trigger where there is no way his hand seems worse at the river than it did on the flop, and vast majority of fish will too.

So no matter how bad/random he is he really should virtually never have a hand that beats our hand, so if I get value from a mere 1 combo that picked up something or a retardedly played pocket pair I can safely value bet and call a raise...