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Handnr: 897736
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Game #59473167349: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/03/19 18:33:36 ET
Table Lampetia V 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: bogdantexas ($640.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($139.50 in chips)
Seat 3: recesdad ($466.75 in chips)
Seat 4: DubsPoke ($251.60 in chips)
Seat 6: cain19 ($250 in chips)
bogdantexas: posts small blind $0.50
Hero: posts big blind $1
ohhdealdeal: sits out
bogdantexas: posts the ante $0.20
Hero: posts the ante $0.20
recesdad: posts the ante $0.20
DubsPoke: posts the ante $0.20
cain19: posts the ante $0.20

Holecards
Dealt to Hero: Ac8c
recesdad: folds
DubsPoke: folds
cain19: raises $2 to $3
bogdantexas: folds
Hero: calls $2

Flop (Pot : $6.50)

   Kd8sTd
Hero: checks
cain19: bets $5
Hero: raises $15 to $20
cain19: calls $15

Turn (Pot : $46.50)

   Kd8sTd3h
Hero: checks
cain19: checks

River (Pot : $46.50)

   Kd8sTd3h4s
Hero: checks
cain19: checks

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 19 2011 18:42. Posts 15163




Seriously thought, is this line good?
I wouldn't think of raising oop here, is our plan to c/f turn?
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93% Sure! Last edit: 19/03/2011 18:55

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 19 2011 19:07. Posts 15163

Or we think calling should be -ev oop because there isn't a turn we like and it's just a 1 street bluff using our blockers?

93% Sure!  

rockman255   Canada. Mar 19 2011 20:02. Posts 4471

if you are raising to make him fold something you beat, you have to bet more? im really confused. what are you asking?

i think after you raise flop you might as well just bomb turn and jam river and he should fold alot, and if you dont do all of that, idont think theres much point in raising this flop with this hand :S

rockman255: its not easy being superman U N0 MySteeZ: mega man. rockman255: same thing U N0 MySteeZ: noLast edit: 19/03/2011 20:03

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 19 2011 20:03. Posts 15163

if this line is good and why we'd take it. It's not a hand I played. I stole the HH.

93% Sure! Last edit: 19/03/2011 20:04

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 19 2011 20:06. Posts 15163

I mean in terms of EV against some aggro person that plays bet/fold strategy and barrels a lot on turn can you c/c profitably oop?

If you don't think that it would make sense to raise here if ev of a raise >0 even if you give up on turn no?

93% Sure! Last edit: 19/03/2011 20:13

rockman255   Canada. Mar 19 2011 20:08. Posts 4471

as played i dont think this line is good at all, its teetering inbetween being a bluff or a vbet and seems dumb, i mean, if villian has a high enough cbet%, its probably "+ev" but that doesnt mean its the best play

rockman255: its not easy being superman U N0 MySteeZ: mega man. rockman255: same thing U N0 MySteeZ: no 

rockman255   Canada. Mar 19 2011 20:11. Posts 4471

against someone who plays aggro, yeah, i dont think i like calling this pre all that often, thats my super lame solution for the time being

rockman255: its not easy being superman U N0 MySteeZ: mega man. rockman255: same thing U N0 MySteeZ: no 

whamm!   Albania. Mar 19 2011 20:24. Posts 11625

yeah i think this line turns ur hand into garbage anyway, its like playing with 22 now


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 19 2011 20:33. Posts 15163

true but if
EV Call < = 0 oop, almost no good turns, can't stand any heat even when he is aggro
EV Raise > = 0 we block AK+2set combos

Raising is still the best play no (although it goes against fundamentals)?

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