what do you think of jamie's hand here

ie does he often have 1pair beat?

well thats no fun

should probably snap you off but dunno if I Can give u so much credit

i kinda wanna know what ppl think of this hand tho lol

probably think I'm a failure for not calling with ace high or better. that was my read during the hand BUT it made sense for you to have tx as well so who knows.. u should tell me

On March 28 2011 16:36 Night2o1 wrote: what do you think of jamie's hand here ie does he often have 1pair beat?

every time, there is 2 pair on the board

WTF, get the expert team in here! Get taltentedtom, heros and samillionaire in here, NOW!!!!

yes we clearly need samillionaire's input here

Looks like he re-bluffed you.

yeah, but then again his line makes perfect sense with a T :/ and he called out of the BB so he likely has a lot more T's in his range. I am not sure if I should be calling because of how likely it is that a T would play this way

he also might have fewer bluffs in his range since he lead the turn, I wouldn't expect him to lead without a pair(or KJ) or better on the turn but I could be totally wrong there. Its just that I think my hand looks like I have showdown value and probably won't fold on the turn vs his lead

Playing against fellow LPer is so weird.

I call any kind of sdv. It depends how we think jamie sees it but I would not personally like to take his line if I was strong. I think anything that pot controls the flop and calls the turn is unlikely to vb the river or hold too many bluffs that randomly float the turn.

the only thing in his value c/r range here is a T imo, KJ, 9, and a Q are all bluff catchers unless he expects you to call with a Q. Unless he knows this c/r looks bluff so he is doing it with those hands to induce a call from like AK/AJ.

your river bet also looks like a counterfeited lower pair. I figure you check back JJ here, and probably QJ? Do you value bet any Q here? Do you value bet a 9 here (assuming u open 89s, A9s from utg.)

I really don't think this is a bluff. I also don't get what you played like this unless it's J9s.

I think you got a little weird there on the river and against a good player like jamie id rather not have a b/f range there as it played out.

I kinda think you had KJ as weird as it sounds :o

On March 28 2011 19:15 EvilSky wrote: I kinda think you had KJ as weird as it sounds :o

I was thinking the same thing lol